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It’s hard to involve yourself in another country’s potential uprising without inserting your biases. But providing people with uncensored internet is probably
by ramblerman 4y ago
It’s hard to involve yourself in another country’s potential uprising without inserting your biases.
But providing people with uncensored internet is probably the most productive and neutral action you can undertake.
Here is the info. Decide for yourselves, there can be no resentment later.
- hedora 4y agoIt's hard to make this argument unless you're providing access globally, and that won't happen. Instead, doing this is just helping powerful repressive regimes and undermining less powerful regimes. cough China cough: https://www.engadget.com/china-military-scientists-anti-starlink-measures-060518398.html https://www.engadget.com/china-military-scientists-anti-star...
- bin_bash 4y agohow is offering internet in iran helping china?
- hedora 4y agoUltimately, Starlink is censorable in China, and any country where China insists on censoring the Internet. They can only offer Internet in Iran with the (implicit) blessing of large nations. The specific act of offering Iran may or may not help China, but it clearly undermines Russia and helps the US. Regardless of that, unauthorized deployment of uncensored Internet is a strong political weapon that is only available to large / wealthy nations. (Contrast this to some sort of hypothetical censor-resistent NNTP style news source, where cheap devices sync the news with each other via local wireless connections.)
- blacksmith_tb 4y agoHmm, unless the PRC can block transmissions from the Starlink satellites (or devote the resources to track down dishes in remote areas), I am not sure they can "censor" those connections? I see your general point, though it seems to me to make a slightly-too-strong connection between the US Gov't and its policies and interests and Starlink's (that said, if the two were fundamentally at odds it doesn't seem like Starlink would be offering to provide access to Iranians...)
- SilverBirch 4y agoHaha, no it's more like Elon Musk visits his factory in China, mysteriously disappears for 3 months, his Chinese assets are sold off and he reappears 6 months later and decides to leave all his leadership positions and become a recluse. Let's say it's not even the explicit, Musk just suddenly struggles to find suppliers for his factories in China and his deals to buy raw resources in China start to get delayed.
- hedora 4y agoAccording to the link I posted above, they're already threatening to deploy anti-satellite capabilities specifically designed to knock out the Starlink network. More realistically, they'd be more subtle. Perhaps Tesla would hit supply chain issues at exactly the wrong time, or they'd announce an extra $100b investment in industries directly competing with Musk's companies. Tariffs are also a thing. They could simply adjust them (up or down).
- tuatoru 4y ago> threatening to deploy anti-satellite capabilities specifically designed to knock out the Starlink network. If you have a working model of how it can be done without global nuclear war, there's probably a Nobel prize waiting for you. Extra credit if you can avoid knocking out every other satellite in LEO and the space stations.
- Serenacula 4y agoYou can just fry a satellite from the ground, you don't need to blow it up.
- s1artibartfast 4y agoNonsense. Providing internet to less powerful regimes isn't helping more powerful ones. Not offering a service in China isn't helping China, It is neutral.
- ramblerman 4y agoSo the people of Iran shouldn't have access to the world's information untill everyone else does? I don't follow your argument. It seems to be a case of "the enemy of better is best".
- dzhiurgis 4y agoWell to be devils advocate what Starlink are actually providing is the CIA with Iranians browsing data
- throwawayKiwi9 4y agoWhich are all encrypted sessions, unless you're suggesting other unproven facts.
- foxyv 4y agoIranians are keenly aware of the advantages of VPN services.