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that's really interesting, can you explain this bit a bit more? Or let me know what to google to learn more about this? "The process of simulating actions is t

that's really interesting, can you explain this bit a bit more? Or let me know what to google to learn more about this? "The process of simulating actions is the process that changes the structure of your mind"

kardianos 4y ago
I would point you to two different motivating examples: * Childhood development. A child who has had early childhood adverse experiences mind is effected. A fMRI or chemical detection can see physical differences in the brain. But the brain is plastic (it can change) over time. Works on this subject have been published by Dr. Dan Siegel https://drdansiegel.com/books https://drdansiegel.com/books among others. The key insight here is that academic learning is not significantly different at a core aspect then behavioral learning. * Physical sports/martial arts depend on a reaction time much smaller then what is afforded by going through the full frontal cortex. "muscle-memory" isn't real (it isn't "memory" as you think of it). What you have in these cases are "short-circuits" (this implies structural changes) that are able to act before you are consciously aware of what is going on. The same applies to math facts and other fundamentals, you move things away from memory that needs to be retrieved and into reaction. Reading C-syntax for programmers or signing your name is something that has been turned into structure that doesn't need "memory". I think your initial premise is correct. We have limited memory. How do we overcome that? We write. Writing is important because with it we can overcome our natural memory limitations. You cannot think about complexities (well or clearly) if you cannot write. The danger of writing is that you can produce something that is both irrational and nearly impenetrable to the casual reader. For example: > Foucault's use of the concept is descriptive, that is, analytical and explanatory, and at the same time normative and critical: he describes the grip biopolitics have on individuals through technologies of power in a way that makes manifest the repression at work in these biopolitical processes. The above, taken directly from an "academic" published journal, could be said to have meaning. Unfortunately, each one of these words has an alternate meaning that is not normative to English, making the entire (actual) meaning opaque. "contecpt" "analytical", "explanatory", "normative", "critical", "biopolitics", "individuals", "technologies", "power", "manifest", "repression", "processes" are all defined differently then a standard English dictionary. So even if you can get past the convoluted sentence structure, the intended meaning will still elude you. But the answer to memory limitations is clear writing using common definitions of words. I bring this up because as you extend your memory beyond what it innately has, the more likely you are to fool yourself (and others) with sophistry.
- p-christ 4y ago
  > Writing is important because with it we can overcome our natural memory limitations. Very interesting. Is the theory here that by writing things out on a page we are then able to manipulate the ideas in our head without the usual limits of our working memory? Working memory is still limited but because all the information is so nearby and within view we can quickly put things in and out of our working memory so its limit doesn't impede us as much?
  - kardianos 4y ago
    Yes indeed. You are engaging your visual cortex as retrieval tools and paper for storage. Visual is fast.
rileyphone 4y ago
The mind, in this sense, is composed of mental models that we use to predict how our various actions might change the state of the world. A good example is driving a car [0] - when first learning, we lack an intuitive grasp on how turning the wheel might effect the car, but as we gain more experience we can simulate just how the car will respond right before we take the action, jarring us if we're wrong. This process can be applied to robots as well [1]. 0. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877050921012539# https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S187705092...! 1. https://www.creativemachineslab.com/uploads/6/9/3/4/69340277/task-agnostic_self-modeling_machines.pdf https://www.creativemachineslab.com/uploads/6/9/3/4/69340277...

kardianos 4y ago

I would point you to two different motivating examples: * Childhood development. A child who has had early childhood adverse experiences mind is effected. A fMRI or chemical detection can see physical differences in the brain. But the brain is plastic (it can change) over time. Works on this subject have been published by Dr. Dan Siegel https://drdansiegel.com/books https://drdansiegel.com/books among others. The key insight here is that academic learning is not significantly different at a core aspect then behavioral learning. * Physical sports/martial arts depend on a reaction time much smaller then what is afforded by going through the full frontal cortex. "muscle-memory" isn't real (it isn't "memory" as you think of it). What you have in these cases are "short-circuits" (this implies structural changes) that are able to act before you are consciously aware of what is going on. The same applies to math facts and other fundamentals, you move things away from memory that needs to be retrieved and into reaction. Reading C-syntax for programmers or signing your name is something that has been turned into structure that doesn't need "memory". I think your initial premise is correct. We have limited memory. How do we overcome that? We write. Writing is important because with it we can overcome our natural memory limitations. You cannot think about complexities (well or clearly) if you cannot write. The danger of writing is that you can produce something that is both irrational and nearly impenetrable to the casual reader. For example: > Foucault's use of the concept is descriptive, that is, analytical and explanatory, and at the same time normative and critical: he describes the grip biopolitics have on individuals through technologies of power in a way that makes manifest the repression at work in these biopolitical processes. The above, taken directly from an "academic" published journal, could be said to have meaning. Unfortunately, each one of these words has an alternate meaning that is not normative to English, making the entire (actual) meaning opaque. "contecpt" "analytical", "explanatory", "normative", "critical", "biopolitics", "individuals", "technologies", "power", "manifest", "repression", "processes" are all defined differently then a standard English dictionary. So even if you can get past the convoluted sentence structure, the intended meaning will still elude you. But the answer to memory limitations is clear writing using common definitions of words. I bring this up because as you extend your memory beyond what it innately has, the more likely you are to fool yourself (and others) with sophistry.

p-christ 4y ago
> Writing is important because with it we can overcome our natural memory limitations. Very interesting. Is the theory here that by writing things out on a page we are then able to manipulate the ideas in our head without the usual limits of our working memory? Working memory is still limited but because all the information is so nearby and within view we can quickly put things in and out of our working memory so its limit doesn't impede us as much?
- kardianos 4y ago
  Yes indeed. You are engaging your visual cortex as retrieval tools and paper for storage. Visual is fast.

rileyphone 4y ago

The mind, in this sense, is composed of mental models that we use to predict how our various actions might change the state of the world. A good example is driving a car [0] - when first learning, we lack an intuitive grasp on how turning the wheel might effect the car, but as we gain more experience we can simulate just how the car will respond right before we take the action, jarring us if we're wrong. This process can be applied to robots as well [1]. 0. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877050921012539# https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S187705092...! 1. https://www.creativemachineslab.com/uploads/6/9/3/4/69340277/task-agnostic_self-modeling_machines.pdf https://www.creativemachineslab.com/uploads/6/9/3/4/69340277...