> I'm pretty sure what he meant was that Puppet/Chef is for wrangling VMs, and for a greenfield project, there are better tools available than VMs. That's also

> I'm pretty sure what he meant was that Puppet/Chef is for wrangling VMs, and for a greenfield project, there are better tools available than VMs. That's also fair, as long as you don't have requirements to run on-prem, where a lot of the cloud offerings won't usually be available.