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Why would citizenship be required to move to a different country ? I've lived in half a dozen legally in three different continents without ever being a citizen

Why would citizenship be required to move to a different country ? I've lived in half a dozen legally in three different continents without ever being a citizen in any of them.

devoutsalsa 4y ago
The primary motivations for having a secondary citizenship is reducing your exposure to political risks and giving yourself visa free access to more countries. For example, traveling with a Russian passport is more challenging now than it was before the invasion of Ukraine. Some countries limit issuing visas to Russian citizens. A Russian traveling with a non-Russian passport will have a less frustrating experience in some places. Not an expert, just sharing some information I’ve seen around on the subject. Do your own research.
- ananiochita 4y ago
  I don't understand why this explanation is given to me. I don't need to do any research, I have dual citizenship, plus an EU passport. I am unfortunately an expert in needing a way to get out of "your country" if things in your own country are or become awful. And citizenship has nothing to do with moving to another country, again. People move to work, to study, to pursue a relationship, and they get a visa to do so, then residency, THEN if wanted or needed, shoot for citizenship. I was wondering if OP was not happy in Europe, then why not use that money to move elsewhere, I'd consider that an investment, if not a literal one. I wish I had had 50k in my twenties to do it.
  - Smithalicious 4y ago
    Did you get the idea that I'm not happy in Europe? If you did, I'm not sure why, as I am quite happy here - I just don't feel comfortable having large amounts of money sitting around denominated in Euros, as the value of the Euro is rapidly depreciating.
    - ananiochita 4y ago
      Got it, not happy with the currency at present, nothing to do with the place itself. Disregard my suggestion ! ( And thanks for clarifying. )
Nextgrid 4y ago
Let's say I'm a developer with an EU passport and would like to live and work in a non-EU country, how do I do it? I assume need to find an employer that is happy to sponsor me a work visa (which is a headache for them and makes me less competitive over a local applicant)?
- ananiochita 4y ago
  There are all kinds of visas in all kinds of non-EU countries, and all kinds of jobs. Yes, you do it by researching, finding if there is an employer looking for your profile, a digital nomad program, making friends and contacts during a temporary stay and generally doing everything people do to move to another country -- and most people do it without an enormous comfortable cushion of 50k, without any help at all. The world is big and vast and beautiful and horrible, but certainly there is life outside the EU bubble. Edit : Not to mention, someone who can make 50k in a "short stint" in their twenties seems like someone an employer anywhere would want.

Why would citizenship be required to move to a different country ? I've lived in half a dozen legally in three different continents without ever being a citizen in any of them.

devoutsalsa 4y ago

The primary motivations for having a secondary citizenship is reducing your exposure to political risks and giving yourself visa free access to more countries. For example, traveling with a Russian passport is more challenging now than it was before the invasion of Ukraine. Some countries limit issuing visas to Russian citizens. A Russian traveling with a non-Russian passport will have a less frustrating experience in some places. Not an expert, just sharing some information I’ve seen around on the subject. Do your own research.

ananiochita 4y ago
I don't understand why this explanation is given to me. I don't need to do any research, I have dual citizenship, plus an EU passport. I am unfortunately an expert in needing a way to get out of "your country" if things in your own country are or become awful. And citizenship has nothing to do with moving to another country, again. People move to work, to study, to pursue a relationship, and they get a visa to do so, then residency, THEN if wanted or needed, shoot for citizenship. I was wondering if OP was not happy in Europe, then why not use that money to move elsewhere, I'd consider that an investment, if not a literal one. I wish I had had 50k in my twenties to do it.
- Smithalicious 4y ago
  Did you get the idea that I'm not happy in Europe? If you did, I'm not sure why, as I am quite happy here - I just don't feel comfortable having large amounts of money sitting around denominated in Euros, as the value of the Euro is rapidly depreciating.
  - ananiochita 4y ago
    Got it, not happy with the currency at present, nothing to do with the place itself. Disregard my suggestion ! ( And thanks for clarifying. )

Nextgrid 4y ago

Let's say I'm a developer with an EU passport and would like to live and work in a non-EU country, how do I do it? I assume need to find an employer that is happy to sponsor me a work visa (which is a headache for them and makes me less competitive over a local applicant)?

ananiochita 4y ago
There are all kinds of visas in all kinds of non-EU countries, and all kinds of jobs. Yes, you do it by researching, finding if there is an employer looking for your profile, a digital nomad program, making friends and contacts during a temporary stay and generally doing everything people do to move to another country -- and most people do it without an enormous comfortable cushion of 50k, without any help at all. The world is big and vast and beautiful and horrible, but certainly there is life outside the EU bubble. Edit : Not to mention, someone who can make 50k in a "short stint" in their twenties seems like someone an employer anywhere would want.