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Narrow thinking. Cargo bikes come in a variety of shapes and sizes to carry children, adults, parcels, moving boxes, and more. As for the weather... well, as we

by drsim 4y ago

Narrow thinking. Cargo bikes come in a variety of shapes and sizes to carry children, adults, parcels, moving boxes, and more. As for the weather... well, as we say in Denmark: there's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing.

mattw2121 4y ago
Denmark - max temp 72F/22C Florida - max temp 100F/38C Have fun biking in Florida, unless there is a shower ready for you at each end.
- acdha 4y ago
  If you're doing something dressy, you need that shower anyway unless you're never spending more than a couple of minutes outside — or you dress appropriately for the weather and it's not an issue. Florida is also an interesting example given that it's both the southernmost point of the continental United States and at significant risk of catastrophic damages from the climate change caused in no small part by driving cars. Whether or not you prefer the status quo, continuing it isn't an option.
  - ioslipstream 4y ago
    - acdha 4y ago
      Let me simplify it for you: scientists have been concerned about global warming since the early 20th century. In the 1970s the prevailing concern was warming but a couple of papers hypothesized that cooling might be possible under certain circumstances, but that was disproven before 1980. The predictions of warming made over the last 40 years have been increasingly precise, too. https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-climate-science-really-call-for-a-coming-ice-age/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-cl... https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/06/how-well-have-climate-models-done-in-the-upper-atmosphere/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/06/how-well-have-climat... https://arstechnica.com/science/2012/12/ipccs-climate-projections-on-target-so-far/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2012/12/ipccs-climate-projec... Unfortunately, the reason you’re Just Asking Questions™ about science which has been settled since the Carter administration is because the fossil fuel industry also knew the science was accurate, and their internal researchers supported it, so they started pouring money into spreading denial and securing political allies to help prevent actions which would harm their business interests: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-...
  - dylan604 4y ago
    >Florida is also an interesting example oooh, now do Texas. Arizona, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Southern California or, flip it. Do any of the states bordering Canada during winter.
    - acdha 4y ago
      I grew up in Southern California. You can bike year round, except for a couple of days a year when you have severe rain (which also floods a lot of roads) or wildfires. The primary reason people don’t are that the roads are unsafe by design and opposition to dense housing has pushed people into unsustainable lifestyles.
    - PpEY4fu85hkQpn 4y ago
      Minneapolis consistently has one of the highest rates of bike commuting of US cities. Build the infrastructure and people ride bikes.
  - mattw2121 4y ago
    I believe you are discounting the fact that a shower is not always available at the place you are going. Take for example, you need to go to a job interview. I skip the shower at home, bike to the job interview, sweat profusely during the ride, and now I shower where exactly? What about needing to go multiple places during the day? Should I now shower 4 times because I have 4 stops that require me to interface with people and appear clean? Biking in Florida (substitute most of the southern US) for 7-8 months of the year is simply not possible unless it is acceptable to be a sweaty mess at each destination.
dagw 4y ago
as we say in Denmark: there's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing. That's easy to say in Denmark, since the weather is virtually always pretty OK. It basically never gets below -10 or above +35. Without looking at the data I would guess 300ish days a year are between 5 and 25.
- dagurp 4y ago
  We use that expression in Iceland too
  - dagw 4y ago
    Yea, we use it Norway as well. However the expression really only works in cool-moderate climates. You can easily dress to be active and comfortable when it's -10 and snowing, you really can't for +40 and humid.

by drsim 4y ago

mattw2121 4y ago

Denmark - max temp 72F/22C Florida - max temp 100F/38C Have fun biking in Florida, unless there is a shower ready for you at each end.

acdha 4y ago
If you're doing something dressy, you need that shower anyway unless you're never spending more than a couple of minutes outside — or you dress appropriately for the weather and it's not an issue. Florida is also an interesting example given that it's both the southernmost point of the continental United States and at significant risk of catastrophic damages from the climate change caused in no small part by driving cars. Whether or not you prefer the status quo, continuing it isn't an option.
- ioslipstream 4y ago
  - acdha 4y ago
    Let me simplify it for you: scientists have been concerned about global warming since the early 20th century. In the 1970s the prevailing concern was warming but a couple of papers hypothesized that cooling might be possible under certain circumstances, but that was disproven before 1980. The predictions of warming made over the last 40 years have been increasingly precise, too. https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-climate-science-really-call-for-a-coming-ice-age/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-cl... https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/06/how-well-have-climate-models-done-in-the-upper-atmosphere/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/06/how-well-have-climat... https://arstechnica.com/science/2012/12/ipccs-climate-projections-on-target-so-far/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2012/12/ipccs-climate-projec... Unfortunately, the reason you’re Just Asking Questions™ about science which has been settled since the Carter administration is because the fossil fuel industry also knew the science was accurate, and their internal researchers supported it, so they started pouring money into spreading denial and securing political allies to help prevent actions which would harm their business interests: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-...
- dylan604 4y ago
  >Florida is also an interesting example oooh, now do Texas. Arizona, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Southern California or, flip it. Do any of the states bordering Canada during winter.
  - acdha 4y ago
    I grew up in Southern California. You can bike year round, except for a couple of days a year when you have severe rain (which also floods a lot of roads) or wildfires. The primary reason people don’t are that the roads are unsafe by design and opposition to dense housing has pushed people into unsustainable lifestyles.
  - PpEY4fu85hkQpn 4y ago
    Minneapolis consistently has one of the highest rates of bike commuting of US cities. Build the infrastructure and people ride bikes.
- mattw2121 4y ago
  I believe you are discounting the fact that a shower is not always available at the place you are going. Take for example, you need to go to a job interview. I skip the shower at home, bike to the job interview, sweat profusely during the ride, and now I shower where exactly? What about needing to go multiple places during the day? Should I now shower 4 times because I have 4 stops that require me to interface with people and appear clean? Biking in Florida (substitute most of the southern US) for 7-8 months of the year is simply not possible unless it is acceptable to be a sweaty mess at each destination.

dagw 4y ago

as we say in Denmark: there's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing. That's easy to say in Denmark, since the weather is virtually always pretty OK. It basically never gets below -10 or above +35. Without looking at the data I would guess 300ish days a year are between 5 and 25.

dagurp 4y ago
We use that expression in Iceland too
- dagw 4y ago
  Yea, we use it Norway as well. However the expression really only works in cool-moderate climates. You can easily dress to be active and comfortable when it's -10 and snowing, you really can't for +40 and humid.