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You'd need to place those, maintain them, prevent vandalism, route power to them, pay for network connectivity and weather-proof them. The price of the cameras
by Sebb767 4y ago
You'd need to place those, maintain them, prevent vandalism, route power to them, pay for network connectivity and weather-proof them. The price of the cameras is not the problem.
- londons_explore 4y agoI will place and maintain road cameras for $50/yr, including data connectivity for plates. Minimum 1,000 cameras. 75% uptime/scan rate guarantee.
- xnorswap 4y agoYou'd likely lose a lot of money trying to do that, you're vastly underestimating the cost of maintaining the data network for that kind of installation alone, even before looking at the cost of physical installation.
- londons_explore 4y agoIf it's a bargain, take me up on the offer then.
- uoaei 4y agoThat's not how the market works.
- n4r9 4y agoIt absolutely is a bargain. I don't have the money or time to risk but I strongly recommend that you start a company, build a website and advertise your service to the world. I'm assuming you'll also deal with any regulatory and data protection issues, get permission from local authorities etc... . You've found an astonishing gap in the market, it seems.
- gus_massa 4y ago> get permission from local authorities For some reason I guess the business plan was about forgetting to get the permits...
- generalizations 4y agoOk, I'll bite. How would you do that? How do they stay connected and powered?
- mschuster91 4y agoSolar panels, probably.
- dagw 4y agoYou'll either have to do this guerrilla style, in which case solar panels will be far too obvious. Or you'll have to apply for all relevant permits, in which case you'll never get them.
- cronix 4y agoPermits? We're not talking a solar farm to power a small device. There are a lot of trail cams that have solar built in, are very small, camouflaged, and motion activated with 20MP cameras for under $200.
- dagw 4y agoWe're talking about filming major roads here. "Motion activated" effectively means running 24/7. No way a built in solar panel in a camouflaged trail camera will manage that. Also it doesn't matter how small the device is, if you legally want to attach a camera to any sort of infrastructure overlooking a road, then yes you need permits you almost certainly will not get. You could possibly attach it to a pole on private land next to the road, but even then you'd need the permission of the land owner.
- cronix 4y agoI suppose it depends on the jurisdiction. For instance, some courts, like the 9th District Court of Appeals have ruled that cities can't remove homeless camping on public property. Public forests are public, and there's lots of trail cams. https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/court-ruling-homless-sleep-public/ https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/court-ruling-homless...
- kspacewalk2 4y agoWhy do you think any city in any Western country will allow you to pepper public property with thousands of surveillance devices?
- dylan604 4y agoRight, gov't doesn't like competition
- arethuza 4y ago"I will place and maintain" I suspect a lot of that $50,000 a year would get burned getting a single camera installed.
- nisegami 4y agoOnly if you do it legally
- dagw 4y agoWhat does your SLA look like? Do I get to pick the roads? And when do I get my $50k back when you fail to deliver?
- londons_explore 4y agoSLA: 75% of the cars that pass will be captured. The 25% covers equipment failure/theft/service outage/etc. This applies to the whole set, not per camera. We mutually agree the roads - but it's unlikely I'll disagree unless you want to place four cameras per country worldwide to maximize logistics difficulties. Half upfront, half when the service has been operating 3 months. Full refund if SLA not met. If you can show you're very solvent, you can pay in arrears instead.
- InCityDreams 4y ago>for $50/yr..... Minimum how many years? I see software doesn't seem to be incuded. Also, your numbers sound like you like to bid for government contracts.
- londons_explore 4y ago1 year minimum (my breakeven point is 8 months optimistically, 12 months more realistically, and the profit comes from either you continuing the contract past 12 months or from someone else contracting me for the same cameras).
- runlevel1 4y agoFor reference: Speed cameras have an annual operating cost of ~$30,000/year.[1] [1]: https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/governor-cites-research-speed-cameras-policy https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news...
- m463 4y agoI suspect speed cameras have to produce results that are verifiable in court, while ALPR cameras just best-effort help locate cars.
- chiefalchemist 4y ago$1000 per yr in actual op cost. $29000 p/y to pay the contracted company to say it's $30k. Of course I'm exaggerating. But at the same time gov is not known for being efficient + effective.