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I have more faith in JMAP's eventual success than you do, but I do agree that it's frustratingly slow. We knew that adoption would be frustrating slow of cours

I have more faith in JMAP's eventual success than you do, but I do agree that it's frustratingly slow. We knew that adoption would be frustrating slow of course, but I do hope that in 3 years' time we'll have a much better story than we have had in the three years since initial standardisation of the core and mail parts. Certainly once calendars and contacts are done, and hopefully tasks as well, that will make a more complete ecosystem that is even more attractive than just the email component!

Loic 4y ago
My personal take is that JMAP would start being widely used if we had some simple Python/Go bindings to easily manipulate the emails. My first reaction as I have seen this standard popping up was not "my email will be faster/better", but "I will be able to setup a nice support@mycompany.com" email address and have both email/web integration with it. If developers start to embrace JMAP for a derivative usage, I think it could drive the adoption.
- calvinmorrison 4y ago
  I think one of the cooler 'derivative' uses is the integration between fastmail and 1password via "masked email". https://blog.1password.com/making-masked-email-with-jmap/ https://blog.1password.com/making-masked-email-with-jmap/
alberth 4y ago
Hi Bron - love Fastmail and the innovation you leading. Question: what do you think is the rough timing on Calendar/Sharing/Contacts/Tasks to be ratified? Within the next year, 2-years, etc?
- rsto 4y ago
  Hi, I am one of the people writing and coding these standards at Fastmail. There are IETF standard drafts for JMAP calendars, contacts and tasks in the works (not just by Fastmail). We aim at publishing them in 2023. You can check the progress in the IETF calext and jmap working groups and we appreciate any input on the mailing lists!
  - alberth 4y ago
    Awesome. Thanks for much for all you and your colleagues do.
x0x0 4y ago
Are you all thinking about, or planning to allow plugins? eg say I wanted to use jmap to implement some of hey's functionality -- for instance the screener that isolates and allows ban of new emails on first contact. Rather than a client, can I have a server that listens to my fastmail inbox and (potentially) moves emails as they're delivered? Any chance you're thinking about allowing UI space for things like that?

Loic 4y ago

My personal take is that JMAP would start being widely used if we had some simple Python/Go bindings to easily manipulate the emails. My first reaction as I have seen this standard popping up was not "my email will be faster/better", but "I will be able to setup a nice support@mycompany.com" email address and have both email/web integration with it. If developers start to embrace JMAP for a derivative usage, I think it could drive the adoption.

calvinmorrison 4y ago
I think one of the cooler 'derivative' uses is the integration between fastmail and 1password via "masked email". https://blog.1password.com/making-masked-email-with-jmap/ https://blog.1password.com/making-masked-email-with-jmap/

alberth 4y ago

Hi Bron - love Fastmail and the innovation you leading. Question: what do you think is the rough timing on Calendar/Sharing/Contacts/Tasks to be ratified? Within the next year, 2-years, etc?

rsto 4y ago
Hi, I am one of the people writing and coding these standards at Fastmail. There are IETF standard drafts for JMAP calendars, contacts and tasks in the works (not just by Fastmail). We aim at publishing them in 2023. You can check the progress in the IETF calext and jmap working groups and we appreciate any input on the mailing lists!
- alberth 4y ago
  Awesome. Thanks for much for all you and your colleagues do.

x0x0 4y ago

Are you all thinking about, or planning to allow plugins? eg say I wanted to use jmap to implement some of hey's functionality -- for instance the screener that isolates and allows ban of new emails on first contact. Rather than a client, can I have a server that listens to my fastmail inbox and (potentially) moves emails as they're delivered? Any chance you're thinking about allowing UI space for things like that?