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Yes. And if someone knows books or discussions about this topic I want the names. Its such a strong force in social structures. Stating your truth is rarely pos
by agumonkey 4y ago
Yes. And if someone knows books or discussions about this topic I want the names. Its such a strong force in social structures. Stating your truth is rarely possible, you better sing along and talk down in smaller sub groups later.
- christophilus 4y agoRead anything Charlie Munger writes on the topic. He said something to the effect of “A year in which you fail to kill at least one of your cherished ideas is probably a failed year.” Anyway, he has a lot to say on the subject and on incentives and human psychology broadly.
- AstralStorm 4y agoNice platitude, but sometimes cherished ideas are actually true. A better way to phrase it would be a year when you don't challenge your idea is probably a failed year. It might still win the challenge.
- bombcar 4y agoI think the idea is you have many cherished ideas, and so many are actually false that you shouldn't have much difficulty killing one. Or, another way of looking at it, your knowledge of so many areas is superficial and a deep dive into any one would let you know how you weren't even wrong, as the saying goes. You can find people doing it in any HN thread about almost anything - often shows up as "why didn't they just do X". A non-domain expert with a "obvious solution" is almost always missing something major.
- agumonkey 4y agostuff like psychology of misjudgement ?
- seneca 4y agoThis is a large chunk of "The Elephant in the Brain", though it's present as an example of the wider thesis. The overall topic of the book is that people basically always lie about their motivations, including to themselves. I highly recommend reading it.
- ler0ix 4y agohttps://youtu.be/QWkWeZOQZI8 https://youtu.be/QWkWeZOQZI8 Jordan Peterson’s zebra story
- robswc 4y agoNot really books but did some undergrad research on the topic. http://stephendavies.org/writings/mitterederEtAl.pdf http://stephendavies.org/writings/mitterederEtAl.pdf We referred to it as "issue alignment" but its gone by other things, IIRC. Basically, in theory, one could end up supporting positions that would make 0 sense outside the context of "well, I support "X" cause "team green" supports "X." I've seen it happen often online, a lot less IRL.
- gmnash 4y agohttps://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont... Three mentioned in the article: * Enigma of Reason * The Knowledge Illusion * Denying to the Grave
- suoduandao2 4y agoEverything handwaving freakoutery (it's a blog) publishes on egregores I found highly relevant and entertaining. Actually, everything contemporary mentioning egregores is probably relevant - they're also called 'AI autocults', but the concept existed long before group communication became enmeshed with computer infrastructure - though the dynamics are different now than in enlightenment-era Europe, and the pre-Newtonian assumptions of the older publications throws most modern readers off.