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Employers want you to care about those things though, especially as you become more senior. That doesn't mean you have dedicate your life to work, but someone

Employers want you to care about those things though, especially as you become more senior. That doesn't mean you have dedicate your life to work, but someone with 10-15 years experience who doesn't understand the big picture of how the software is used will make bad decisions. Don't let an overly mercenary attitude lead to a perception that you're a liability.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
Eh, we all want things. In a practical sense, if the company wants me to stay, they should make the environment, where I want to stay. Staying just so that it looks good on the resume is a disservice to one's own career, but truly depends on available options and whether one can deliver in the short tenure they are at a given place ( and depending on what we mean by short tenure -- I think 2 years is acceptable ). We are all mercenaries. If you buy into the mission statement, the management is actually good at selling their vision, you buy it because it resonates with you, you are the owner in some way or you are new to the game and are being used. Sadly, it is that simple. I also disagree with the premise of "someone with 10-15 years experience who doesn't understand the big picture " example. Person in that example is an idiot. Doing something for over a decade and not knowing what they are doing after seeing different setups in different roles? I have yet to meet a person, who moved a lot, who does not have a well of experiences to draw from.
synicalx 4y ago
How you feel/what you think privately is very different to how you present yourself to your employer. Being predominantly interested in compensation is a goal best served by presenting yourself to employers as whatever it is they want you to be.
- sgtnoodle 4y ago
  Sure, everyone maintains a boundary between the workplace and their private life or inner thoughts. Being adaptable and agreeable will get you somewhat far in the short term. Constantly thinking about your compensation and trying to optimize it by manipulating your employer doesn't sound like a great way to live, though. Learning how to say no is a very important skill. I think it's even better for compensation to find positions in which you are an inherently good fit to create value, and then negotiate to a level of compensation favorable enough that you don't need to think about it for a while. As the Rolling Stone song goes, "You can't always get what you want; But if you try sometimes, well, you might find; You get what you need".
  - synicalx 4y ago
    Yeah agreed - you might be stuck in a job you don't necessarily like but you can stick it out for a reasonable length of time and maybe earn some good money until something better comes along by playing along but you're not going to be happy with that long term. You could also use it as a stepping stone; be adaptable in the short term to build experience and salary, then you're in a stronger position further down the line when negotiating for the job you actually want.
- darkerside 4y ago
  The easiest way to make someone think you care about something is to actually care about it.
  - synicalx 4y ago
    It can be very hard to care about something that is inherently boring, 99% of companies don't work on anything that you could consider exciting.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago

Eh, we all want things. In a practical sense, if the company wants me to stay, they should make the environment, where I want to stay. Staying just so that it looks good on the resume is a disservice to one's own career, but truly depends on available options and whether one can deliver in the short tenure they are at a given place ( and depending on what we mean by short tenure -- I think 2 years is acceptable ). We are all mercenaries. If you buy into the mission statement, the management is actually good at selling their vision, you buy it because it resonates with you, you are the owner in some way or you are new to the game and are being used. Sadly, it is that simple. I also disagree with the premise of "someone with 10-15 years experience who doesn't understand the big picture " example. Person in that example is an idiot. Doing something for over a decade and not knowing what they are doing after seeing different setups in different roles? I have yet to meet a person, who moved a lot, who does not have a well of experiences to draw from.

synicalx 4y ago

How you feel/what you think privately is very different to how you present yourself to your employer. Being predominantly interested in compensation is a goal best served by presenting yourself to employers as whatever it is they want you to be.

sgtnoodle 4y ago
Sure, everyone maintains a boundary between the workplace and their private life or inner thoughts. Being adaptable and agreeable will get you somewhat far in the short term. Constantly thinking about your compensation and trying to optimize it by manipulating your employer doesn't sound like a great way to live, though. Learning how to say no is a very important skill. I think it's even better for compensation to find positions in which you are an inherently good fit to create value, and then negotiate to a level of compensation favorable enough that you don't need to think about it for a while. As the Rolling Stone song goes, "You can't always get what you want; But if you try sometimes, well, you might find; You get what you need".
- synicalx 4y ago
  Yeah agreed - you might be stuck in a job you don't necessarily like but you can stick it out for a reasonable length of time and maybe earn some good money until something better comes along by playing along but you're not going to be happy with that long term. You could also use it as a stepping stone; be adaptable in the short term to build experience and salary, then you're in a stronger position further down the line when negotiating for the job you actually want.
darkerside 4y ago
The easiest way to make someone think you care about something is to actually care about it.
- synicalx 4y ago
  It can be very hard to care about something that is inherently boring, 99% of companies don't work on anything that you could consider exciting.