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You think all 40,000 per year are going to be successful if they coast? And doesn't it require some tenacity to get into an Ivy school, meaning they're the type

You think all 40,000 per year are going to be successful if they coast? And doesn't it require some tenacity to get into an Ivy school, meaning they're the type of person less likely to coast? This comment comes off as somewhat sour.

cratermoon 4y ago
> doesn't it require some tenacity to get into an Ivy school Ivy schools are famously cagey about the number of "legacy" admissions, but the best research suggest they weigh legacy many times more than any other criteria, and legacy admissions make up some %15 of the total. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/legacy-admissions-colleges-universities.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/legacy-admissions-coll...
- notimetorelax 4y ago
  Good, so 85% of students worked hard to get into the Ivy League. But because of the 15% you say that their accomplishments is nothing?
  - shapefrog 4y ago
    Unironically I have to have conversations with people who rant about private school A grades being worth D's because their accomplishments are nothing. Naturally now they are sending their children to private school, their children are not being handed everthing on a plate and their grades are great accomplishments. Envy really does destroy the functional parts of the brain where intellectual honesty resides.
    - EddySchauHai 4y ago
      Yep. I went to a good private school (a so called public school in England) and can confirm it does not result in good grades lol. It still requires some drive and care about school to succeed.
  - fleetwoodsnack 4y ago
    This is a joke shared with me in Cambridge: The difference between the ivies and the others is that the dumbest person at an ivy may well be its richest. Make of that what you will.
    - EddySchauHai 4y ago
      Cambridge isn't exempt - if you're a great rower you can get into Land Economics pretty easily ;)
      - fleetwoodsnack 4y ago
        Cambridge, Massachusetts my love.
        EddySchauHai 4y ago
        Ahhhh, I forget there's another.

cratermoon 4y ago

> doesn't it require some tenacity to get into an Ivy school Ivy schools are famously cagey about the number of "legacy" admissions, but the best research suggest they weigh legacy many times more than any other criteria, and legacy admissions make up some %15 of the total. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/legacy-admissions-colleges-universities.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/legacy-admissions-coll...

notimetorelax 4y ago
Good, so 85% of students worked hard to get into the Ivy League. But because of the 15% you say that their accomplishments is nothing?
- shapefrog 4y ago
  Unironically I have to have conversations with people who rant about private school A grades being worth D's because their accomplishments are nothing. Naturally now they are sending their children to private school, their children are not being handed everthing on a plate and their grades are great accomplishments. Envy really does destroy the functional parts of the brain where intellectual honesty resides.
  - EddySchauHai 4y ago
    Yep. I went to a good private school (a so called public school in England) and can confirm it does not result in good grades lol. It still requires some drive and care about school to succeed.
- fleetwoodsnack 4y ago
  This is a joke shared with me in Cambridge: The difference between the ivies and the others is that the dumbest person at an ivy may well be its richest. Make of that what you will.
  - EddySchauHai 4y ago
    Cambridge isn't exempt - if you're a great rower you can get into Land Economics pretty easily ;)
    - fleetwoodsnack 4y ago
      Cambridge, Massachusetts my love.
      - EddySchauHai 4y ago
        Ahhhh, I forget there's another.