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Wrong. Humans are successful (when we are successful) because we use our inherent ingenuity to serve our individual ends and wants without infringing on those e

Wrong. Humans are successful (when we are successful) because we use our inherent ingenuity to serve our individual ends and wants without infringing on those ends and wants of others. Maybe these desires include caring for others, which is often the case, but requiring someone to care for another is to strip that person of their natural freedom. Learn to make distinctions between what is common and what is general.

maxklein 18y ago
You have a very fundamental misunderstanding of biology. Really fundamental. You think a desire such as "caring for others" is somehow a personal choice? Or that God implanted it in us? Caring for others is a biological neccessity of our type of animal - it's why we live, it's why life continues. There is no such thing as natural freedom. We are born in a collective, we die in a collective and we are nothing without our collective. Humans and monkeys are group first, individual second, and have always been that way. That's why people form 'teams' and have a 'group of friends', have 'families'. It's all small groups which together form larger groups, and the overall aim of each group is to make itself survive, but at the very top, the overall aim is to make the entire human race survive. Don't believe you are special. That you have 'natural freedoms'. That you have some inherent ingenuity. That's just sillyness. What would you do with all your ingenuity if you were the only person on earth? Humans have this illusion of being individualistic, and that they work for themselves first. It's not true. People work for the entire society, because without other humans, nobody can survive, no matter how 'ingenious' he is.
- jobeirne 18y ago
  What we're talking about is human ethics, and what you just spouted back at me was a muddled vomit of sociology, if that.
  - maxklein 18y ago
    You think you know it all, but you forget that all you know is one perspective. Have you ever actually walked in another mans shoes? Not observed, but walked. Being a web developer does not make you intelligent. Insulting people who disagree with you shows stupidity. You have a lot to learn, but it's only experience that can teach you that stuff.
    - jobeirne 18y ago
      "You think you know it all." "Insulting people who disagree with you shows stupidity." Self-referential. I dig it.

maxklein 18y ago

You have a very fundamental misunderstanding of biology. Really fundamental. You think a desire such as "caring for others" is somehow a personal choice? Or that God implanted it in us? Caring for others is a biological neccessity of our type of animal - it's why we live, it's why life continues. There is no such thing as natural freedom. We are born in a collective, we die in a collective and we are nothing without our collective. Humans and monkeys are group first, individual second, and have always been that way. That's why people form 'teams' and have a 'group of friends', have 'families'. It's all small groups which together form larger groups, and the overall aim of each group is to make itself survive, but at the very top, the overall aim is to make the entire human race survive. Don't believe you are special. That you have 'natural freedoms'. That you have some inherent ingenuity. That's just sillyness. What would you do with all your ingenuity if you were the only person on earth? Humans have this illusion of being individualistic, and that they work for themselves first. It's not true. People work for the entire society, because without other humans, nobody can survive, no matter how 'ingenious' he is.

jobeirne 18y ago
What we're talking about is human ethics, and what you just spouted back at me was a muddled vomit of sociology, if that.
- maxklein 18y ago
  You think you know it all, but you forget that all you know is one perspective. Have you ever actually walked in another mans shoes? Not observed, but walked. Being a web developer does not make you intelligent. Insulting people who disagree with you shows stupidity. You have a lot to learn, but it's only experience that can teach you that stuff.
  - jobeirne 18y ago
    "You think you know it all." "Insulting people who disagree with you shows stupidity." Self-referential. I dig it.