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> I do have to wonder how long until Google decides that only certain clients can connect with Gmail? Already the case on mobile: > If you use the Play store

> I do have to wonder how long until Google decides that only certain clients can connect with Gmail? Already the case on mobile: > If you use the Play store or GitHub version of FairEmail, you can use the quick setup wizard to easily setup a Gmail account and identity. The Gmail quick setup wizard is not available for third party builds, like the F-Droid build because Google approved the use of OAuth for official builds only. OAuth is also not available on devices without Google services, such as recent Huawei devices, in which case selecting an account will fail. https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-content-faq6 https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/master/FAQ.md#user-co...

Wowfunhappy 4y ago
Can you get around this by setting an App Specific password on your Google account?
- tadfisher 4y ago
  That functionality was removed in favor of OAuth. I'm not sure M66B needs to get approval for the other builds, though, because the access is gated at the cloud API, not though client libraries. You can use Play Services to grant OAuth tokens, or you can use the boring old Google API client libraries, or roll your own; you just need to add the other signing key fingerprints and application IDs to the credential in the project's cloud console. I could easily be mistaken, but there are numerous open-source projects acting as mail clients through the GMail API, Google has granted them access, and they don't have to use a closed-source client to do it. Most of them don't even target Android.
  - Wowfunhappy 4y ago
    > That functionality was removed in favor of OAuth. Huh? I'm using it right now in order to use Gmail in an email client that doesn't support OAuth.
    - okasaki 4y ago
      You're right, that works. The only blocker is that app passwords are only available if you turn on 2fa (even though the functions aren't related.)
- _emacsomancer_ 4y ago
  For Gmail, yes. For Outlook, no.
  - tadfisher 4y ago
    That was removed in May of this year in favor of the SASL XOAUTH2 mechanism.
    - _emacsomancer_ 4y ago
      For Gmail? Mine still seem to working.

Wowfunhappy 4y ago

Can you get around this by setting an App Specific password on your Google account?

tadfisher 4y ago
That functionality was removed in favor of OAuth. I'm not sure M66B needs to get approval for the other builds, though, because the access is gated at the cloud API, not though client libraries. You can use Play Services to grant OAuth tokens, or you can use the boring old Google API client libraries, or roll your own; you just need to add the other signing key fingerprints and application IDs to the credential in the project's cloud console. I could easily be mistaken, but there are numerous open-source projects acting as mail clients through the GMail API, Google has granted them access, and they don't have to use a closed-source client to do it. Most of them don't even target Android.
- Wowfunhappy 4y ago
  > That functionality was removed in favor of OAuth. Huh? I'm using it right now in order to use Gmail in an email client that doesn't support OAuth.
  - okasaki 4y ago
    You're right, that works. The only blocker is that app passwords are only available if you turn on 2fa (even though the functions aren't related.)
_emacsomancer_ 4y ago
For Gmail, yes. For Outlook, no.
- tadfisher 4y ago
  That was removed in May of this year in favor of the SASL XOAUTH2 mechanism.
  - _emacsomancer_ 4y ago
    For Gmail? Mine still seem to working.