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That is a remarkable take on disabled vets, when you see 15 year long fights to get covered for brain damage received in combat due to IEDs, but there are no vi

That is a remarkable take on disabled vets, when you see 15 year long fights to get covered for brain damage received in combat due to IEDs, but there are no visible wounds. Cancers and breathing problems from burn pits. Untreated mental illness leading to a much higher rate of suicide and alcoholism than the rest of the population. But I guess we should go after those disability queens right? Screw the warfighters who signed up to take incoming rounds for the promise of a dodge charger and a communications degree. I love that you scoff at PTSD being a mention it and get 100% condition. You must be smoking the good stuff.

spamuel 4y ago
I'm explicitly talking about the people getting VA disability for things they're making up or exaggerating. I think I was very clear about that. I am a combat veteran, and I think it's ridiculous that the guy who was such a behavior issue that we wouldn't let him off the FOB now pulls in $4k/mo for his "PTSD" from making sure the MREs were accounted for.
neilv 4y ago
(I agree with your points, and gentle reminder on HN's conventions of discourse: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ) IMHO, many disabled veterans not getting all the help they need, which the US could muster, seems to be a real and unconscionable problem. As well as there being tragedies of veterans who the US can't help enough. (Recently including a friend of a friend, who died young, believed due to burn pits.) This context is another reason we should be careful about vocal speculation of benefits/aid fraud. Dismissive-sounding talk risks making a terrible situation even worse, for many genuinely injured people.
- MarkMarine 4y ago
  I am not sure which HN discourse bullet you were referring me to, but if it’s not being snarky… fair. I’m only snarky about this to avoid just losing my cool, to hear someone talk about disabled vets like some kind of freeloading liars, just sucking off the system drives me up the wall. I can’t imagine a more evil and cynical way to talk about people who were willing to lay down their lives so people on here can live a cushy existence, in the peak of empire, wrapped in the warm blanket of safety and security that our overwhelming military force provides these “titans of industry.” This statement I responded to casts doubt on every PTSD or sexual assault claim made, ignoring the difficulty in making these, glossing over the idea that going to a foreign country and killing people, watching your friends die and be dismembered, or being assaulted by people that you were supposed to trust with your life, has on someone’s mental health. I find it maximally disgusting, and I stand by what I said.
  - spamuel 4y ago
    You find it maximally disgusting that someone would acknowledge that there are a lot of people lying about being hurt, so they can steal money. Got it. I acknowledge that you feel this way.
  - neilv 4y ago
    Understood, and agreed.

spamuel 4y ago

I'm explicitly talking about the people getting VA disability for things they're making up or exaggerating. I think I was very clear about that. I am a combat veteran, and I think it's ridiculous that the guy who was such a behavior issue that we wouldn't let him off the FOB now pulls in $4k/mo for his "PTSD" from making sure the MREs were accounted for.

neilv 4y ago

(I agree with your points, and gentle reminder on HN's conventions of discourse: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ) IMHO, many disabled veterans not getting all the help they need, which the US could muster, seems to be a real and unconscionable problem. As well as there being tragedies of veterans who the US can't help enough. (Recently including a friend of a friend, who died young, believed due to burn pits.) This context is another reason we should be careful about vocal speculation of benefits/aid fraud. Dismissive-sounding talk risks making a terrible situation even worse, for many genuinely injured people.

MarkMarine 4y ago
I am not sure which HN discourse bullet you were referring me to, but if it’s not being snarky… fair. I’m only snarky about this to avoid just losing my cool, to hear someone talk about disabled vets like some kind of freeloading liars, just sucking off the system drives me up the wall. I can’t imagine a more evil and cynical way to talk about people who were willing to lay down their lives so people on here can live a cushy existence, in the peak of empire, wrapped in the warm blanket of safety and security that our overwhelming military force provides these “titans of industry.” This statement I responded to casts doubt on every PTSD or sexual assault claim made, ignoring the difficulty in making these, glossing over the idea that going to a foreign country and killing people, watching your friends die and be dismembered, or being assaulted by people that you were supposed to trust with your life, has on someone’s mental health. I find it maximally disgusting, and I stand by what I said.
- spamuel 4y ago
  You find it maximally disgusting that someone would acknowledge that there are a lot of people lying about being hurt, so they can steal money. Got it. I acknowledge that you feel this way.
- neilv 4y ago
  Understood, and agreed.