You wrote "I don't recall government subsidies or loans to them." I showed you quite a few sources totally into the billions of dollars. Now you've moved the

You wrote "I don't recall government subsidies or loans to them." I showed you quite a few sources totally into the billions of dollars. Now you've moved the goalposts - and that's on only one point of the several I mentioned, which themselves are only a subset of "the usual litany." I no longer find this exchange interesting.