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Even the CIA refutes that it’s a hostile power doing this: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cia-havana-syndrome-hostile-power-1287690/ https:

Even the CIA refutes that it’s a hostile power doing this: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cia-havana-syndrome-hostile-power-1287690/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cia-hava... Just because one doctor says it we have to believe them? Doctors are not at all infallible and are flawed like everyone else. I mean just a few years ago, doctors were heavily subscribing opiates. I’ll remain skeptical until actual evidence is presented.

effingwewt 4y ago
I'd believe damn near anyone over the CIA. In fact I'd take anything they refute as proof of existence.
- diogenescynic 4y ago
  Then why are you believing a CIA doctor?
  - effingwewt 4y ago
    I love when someone pushes a bullshit narrative so hard they shoot themselves in the foot. To answer your 'question'- because he is actively going against the CIA narrative. Since you obviously didn't read the article let me enlighten you with a quote from it '"The narrative just was going the wrong way. And no matter what I did or said to people, that just continued," Andrews said. "In fact, to this day, a lot of things that were done seemed not appropriate to my standards." Some officers who were impacted didn't want to report for fear of damaging their careers, Andrews said.' This shouldn't need to be said, but let me do so anyways to avoid you muddying the waters further: one doctor from the CIA going counter to his higher-ups' narrative is why I believe 'a CIA doctor'. One doctor blowing a whistle is not the same as the entire CIA. They sowed this distrust themselves, and your comments are far from helping their current PR push.
    - diogenescynic 4y ago
      > I love when someone pushes a bullshit narrative so hard they shoot themselves in the foot Projecting much? You were the one saying don’t trust the CIA (except this CIA doctor). Definitely seems consistent.
      - effingwewt 4y ago
        You really just posted to repeat yourself after I took the time to answer you? Waste of my time.

effingwewt 4y ago

I'd believe damn near anyone over the CIA. In fact I'd take anything they refute as proof of existence.

diogenescynic 4y ago
Then why are you believing a CIA doctor?
- effingwewt 4y ago
  I love when someone pushes a bullshit narrative so hard they shoot themselves in the foot. To answer your 'question'- because he is actively going against the CIA narrative. Since you obviously didn't read the article let me enlighten you with a quote from it '"The narrative just was going the wrong way. And no matter what I did or said to people, that just continued," Andrews said. "In fact, to this day, a lot of things that were done seemed not appropriate to my standards." Some officers who were impacted didn't want to report for fear of damaging their careers, Andrews said.' This shouldn't need to be said, but let me do so anyways to avoid you muddying the waters further: one doctor from the CIA going counter to his higher-ups' narrative is why I believe 'a CIA doctor'. One doctor blowing a whistle is not the same as the entire CIA. They sowed this distrust themselves, and your comments are far from helping their current PR push.
  - diogenescynic 4y ago
    > I love when someone pushes a bullshit narrative so hard they shoot themselves in the foot Projecting much? You were the one saying don’t trust the CIA (except this CIA doctor). Definitely seems consistent.
    - effingwewt 4y ago
      You really just posted to repeat yourself after I took the time to answer you? Waste of my time.