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> Surprisingly Nothing about this is surprising. When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stron
by tarakat 4y ago
> Surprisingly
Nothing about this is surprising. When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.
Free speech is simply not the main value of what can loosely be called the left. Nor is historical truth or even opposition to slavery, as a review of The Woman King [0] (and the film itself, casting Black slavers as heroes and White abolitionists as villains), and alternating ignorance of or apologetics for the historical Middle Eastern slave trade [1,2,3,4] or present-day African slavery reveal [5].
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32967317 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32967317
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Saharan_slave_trade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Saharan_slave_trade
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
[4] How Islam moderated slavery - https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/slavery_1.shtml https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/slave...
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_contemporary_Africa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_contemporary_Africa - nominally they are against it, yet reserve all their moral outrage and rhetoric only for cases when whites were slavers. The 600 thousand dead, sacrificed in the civil war to end slavery, failed to appease them.
- pmdulaney 4y agoYour statement in italics is new to me and quite insightful, I think. Whoever is the most powerful gets to enforce his own principles. I do think, however, that the Establishment was more supportive of free speech when it was conservative than it is now, now that it is leftist. That is, the conservatives may have been hypocrites at times, but they really did believe in freedom of speech. The woke left is opposed to freedom of speech as a matter of principle.
- tarakat 4y ago> Your statement in italics is new to me and quite insightful, I think. You can credit Frank Herbert for it.