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Wow, how does discovery work when there are legit natsec concerns?

• ceejayoz 4y ago
  I'm not sure what the legitimate national security concern would be for "we accidentally shot down an airliner 26 years ago".
  • consumer451 4y ago
    IANAL, far from it, but normally the other party gets emails and other communications. How does that work when everything is classified?
    • ceejayoz 4y ago
      > How does that work when everything is classified? Well, they're - vaguely - claiming to have found a smoking gun in FOIL requests.
  • CentralHarvest 4y ago
    "We have to protect all the people who were involved in the accident and coverup, some of whom may now hold important positions of power." I mean, they are still using "national security" as an excuse not to declassify JFK files nearly 60 years after the fact.
    • ceejayoz 4y ago
      It's entirely likely some of the remaining JFK files - a big batch got released under Trump, and another under Biden - are victims of over-classification. It's a systemic problem in the government. It's also fairly likely some of the remaining classified docs include "we asked our mole at the Russian embassy to check into it discreetly" and "spy satellites checked to see if Russia was quietly mobilizing in advance" sort of scenarios likely to remain indefinitely secret.
      • MichaelCollins 4y ago
        It's also possible that some of the JFK files might implicate an influential American ally, with whom JFK had a dispute concerning their nuclear weapons program.
• eastern 4y ago
  What are legit natsec concerns now? How about saying yeah it happened, we're sorry and we're paying a USD 100mil each to the surviving families as a token of our regret?
  • consumer451 4y ago
    I didn’t think I was going out on limb in assuming that the details and limitations of a naval defense weapon were probably something to guard. Please note that I am not defending anyone here…