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With such a title, I don't even want to read the article. What about other kinds of existential risk? What about human rights abuses? Do none of those stories

by tasuki 4y ago

With such a title, I don't even want to read the article. What about other kinds of existential risk? What about human rights abuses? Do none of those stories matter? This solidifies the position of climate change as a religion. Which is a pity, because climate change is actually a pressing issue.

tsol 4y ago
You can't do anything about human rights abuses if you can't grow food to eat. Ultimately climate change has the potential to break down modern human society, at least to an extent. It's also a bit of an exaggeration, the point of the article isn't that we literally should not care about any other issue at all.
- tasuki 4y ago
  > You can't do anything about human rights abuses if you can't grow food to eat. As a society, we (still) can grow food to eat. You aren't saying we should disregard human rights abuses right now just because we might not be able to grow enough food some time in the future? Again, I'm not saying to disregard climate change, I just find it very disingenious to say it's the only story that matters: it's not.
Bakary 4y ago
For other types of existential risks we are either in just in along for the ride (wide availability of nuclear weapons) lack data or concrete means of tackling the problem (AI, solar flares and whatnot) or it's something already linked to climate change problem management (decreased resources, overpopulation). The greying of the population is probably the second biggest story other than the climate. For human rights, as tragic as they are the scale is just tiny in comparison. And the biggest boon for those rights is a functioning and wealthy society. Remove that with climate change and demographic troubles and they will be gone in a puff of smoke.
- tasuki 4y ago
  > For other types of existential risks we are either in just in along for the ride [...] Isn't this kind of the case for climate change too? I certainly don't feel like I can personally affect it in any way. As a society, we can affect climate change, but so can we affect nuclear weapons etc.
1970-01-01 4y ago
>What about other kinds of existential risk? What about human rights abuses? Do none of those stories matter? They're the deck chairs on the Titanic. If Earth goes down, human rights are for the next intelligent species to study.

by tasuki 4y ago

tsol 4y ago

You can't do anything about human rights abuses if you can't grow food to eat. Ultimately climate change has the potential to break down modern human society, at least to an extent. It's also a bit of an exaggeration, the point of the article isn't that we literally should not care about any other issue at all.

tasuki 4y ago
> You can't do anything about human rights abuses if you can't grow food to eat. As a society, we (still) can grow food to eat. You aren't saying we should disregard human rights abuses right now just because we might not be able to grow enough food some time in the future? Again, I'm not saying to disregard climate change, I just find it very disingenious to say it's the only story that matters: it's not.

Bakary 4y ago

For other types of existential risks we are either in just in along for the ride (wide availability of nuclear weapons) lack data or concrete means of tackling the problem (AI, solar flares and whatnot) or it's something already linked to climate change problem management (decreased resources, overpopulation). The greying of the population is probably the second biggest story other than the climate. For human rights, as tragic as they are the scale is just tiny in comparison. And the biggest boon for those rights is a functioning and wealthy society. Remove that with climate change and demographic troubles and they will be gone in a puff of smoke.

tasuki 4y ago
> For other types of existential risks we are either in just in along for the ride [...] Isn't this kind of the case for climate change too? I certainly don't feel like I can personally affect it in any way. As a society, we can affect climate change, but so can we affect nuclear weapons etc.

1970-01-01 4y ago

>What about other kinds of existential risk? What about human rights abuses? Do none of those stories matter? They're the deck chairs on the Titanic. If Earth goes down, human rights are for the next intelligent species to study.