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My iPhone is almost five years old and my mom uses my previous one. It‘s still going fast. Certainly the support is far longer than for Android devices.

by quonn 4y ago

fsflover 4y ago
It's easy to compare with crappy Androids. Try to compare with my 12+-year-old laptop running latest Debian and not showing any sign of stopped updates. Same I expect from GNU/Linux phones (Librem 5 and Pinephone).
- dagmx 4y ago
  Do GNU/Linux phones have open source drivers for the hardware components?
  - fsflover 4y ago
    Yes, they do. The first one even runs an FSF-endorsed OS (PureOS).
    - dagmx 4y ago
      What SoC are they running that provides OSS drivers though?
      - fsflover 4y ago
        https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-phones/6827 https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-p...
        dagmx 4y ago
        Thanks for the link. I’m not sure I’d personally make the hardware trade off by using those SoCs but power to anyone who stands by their FOSS convictions by doing so
        fsflover 4y ago
        Unless you do really heavy stuff with your phone (which?), these smartphones are sufficiently powerful for most applications. NoScript in Firefox helps. Sent from my Pinephone.
        dagmx 4y ago
        That’s a fallacy unfortunately that I wish people wouldn’t further because it only views performance in a single dimension. Better performance helps with everything from snappiness to battery life , image processing and a ton of other things that I benefit from daily. None of that is heavy for my current generation SoC but would be for those in your list
josephcsible 4y ago
My Pixel 6 will get five years of official security updates, and if past phones are any indication, it'll get several more years of unofficial ones via custom ROMs like LineageOS after that. Once Apple decides your iPhone is no longer worthy of getting security updates, you're just out of luck, and your choices are add it to our growing e-waste problem or accept a bunch of security vulnerabilities that nobody will ever fix.

My iPhone is almost five years old and my mom uses my previous one. It‘s still going fast. Certainly the support is far longer than for Android devices.

by quonn 4y ago

My iPhone is almost five years old and my mom uses my previous one. It‘s still going fast. Certainly the support is far longer than for Android devices.

fsflover 4y ago

It's easy to compare with crappy Androids. Try to compare with my 12+-year-old laptop running latest Debian and not showing any sign of stopped updates. Same I expect from GNU/Linux phones (Librem 5 and Pinephone).

dagmx 4y ago
Do GNU/Linux phones have open source drivers for the hardware components?
- fsflover 4y ago
  Yes, they do. The first one even runs an FSF-endorsed OS (PureOS).
  - dagmx 4y ago
    What SoC are they running that provides OSS drivers though?
    - fsflover 4y ago
      https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-phones/6827 https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-p...
      - dagmx 4y ago
        Thanks for the link. I’m not sure I’d personally make the hardware trade off by using those SoCs but power to anyone who stands by their FOSS convictions by doing so
        fsflover 4y ago
        Unless you do really heavy stuff with your phone (which?), these smartphones are sufficiently powerful for most applications. NoScript in Firefox helps. Sent from my Pinephone.
        dagmx 4y ago
        That’s a fallacy unfortunately that I wish people wouldn’t further because it only views performance in a single dimension. Better performance helps with everything from snappiness to battery life , image processing and a ton of other things that I benefit from daily. None of that is heavy for my current generation SoC but would be for those in your list

josephcsible 4y ago

My Pixel 6 will get five years of official security updates, and if past phones are any indication, it'll get several more years of unofficial ones via custom ROMs like LineageOS after that. Once Apple decides your iPhone is no longer worthy of getting security updates, you're just out of luck, and your choices are add it to our growing e-waste problem or accept a bunch of security vulnerabilities that nobody will ever fix.