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I came here to say what you've mentioned... there's a big interest in the Russian government to spread this fearmonger narrative (including, of course, Gazprom

I came here to say what you've mentioned... there's a big interest in the Russian government to spread this fearmonger narrative (including, of course, Gazprom who has released an absurd Ad[0] few weeks ago, claiming "the winter is coming"). Here's the thing: people know things aren't going to be like they were one year ago. In fact a lot of people have been proactively taking measures, both consumers and governments. We also know things aren't going to be GREAT! But this type of shit - sorry for the coarseness, but I do fit these articles into the "shit bucket" - doesn't seem to serve any purpose, or add any new development or insight. It just seems to try to increase the frequency of the Russian narrative. What Forbes seems to miss, apparently, is that this was a deliberate choice with the support of Europeans. This is the price we're willing to pay to help to sink down an aggressive state and warmonger. Or at least, not help it flourish. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2b_0gfV_4E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2b_0gfV_4E

jdthedisciple 4y ago
Keep being in denial - this winter will be a freezing cold one for the EU, that's pretty much a given if you look at the energy price developments as we speak. I don't see you refute the numbers, you're just attacking the messenger. > This is the price we are willing to pay Oh interesting. Yea you're sure the majority of your people are willing to starve and freeze for the sake of corrupt politics and a pseudo-moralistic cause? Have you asked them? Perhaps speak for yourself only. And good luck to you and your family doing your part in reducing gas demand if you're so "willing".
- saturn_vk 4y ago
  I'm curious, are such comments being paid by the number, or article? And is the payment in rubles or some other currency?
dns_snek 4y ago
> This was a deliberate choice with the support of Europeans. This is the price *we're* willing to pay You really shouldn't speak on behalf of other people. I don't remember anyone being asked for their opinion or given a choice on this matter. I'm sure people who work minimum wage jobs and are just trying to get by don't have the luxury to wage a questionable ideological and economic war, something you seem to take for granted. For many people such a drastic increase in energy prices is the difference between barely getting by and choosing which days to go hungry.

jdthedisciple 4y ago

Keep being in denial - this winter will be a freezing cold one for the EU, that's pretty much a given if you look at the energy price developments as we speak. I don't see you refute the numbers, you're just attacking the messenger. > This is the price we are willing to pay Oh interesting. Yea you're sure the majority of your people are willing to starve and freeze for the sake of corrupt politics and a pseudo-moralistic cause? Have you asked them? Perhaps speak for yourself only. And good luck to you and your family doing your part in reducing gas demand if you're so "willing".

saturn_vk 4y ago
I'm curious, are such comments being paid by the number, or article? And is the payment in rubles or some other currency?

dns_snek 4y ago

> This was a deliberate choice with the support of Europeans. This is the price *we're* willing to pay You really shouldn't speak on behalf of other people. I don't remember anyone being asked for their opinion or given a choice on this matter. I'm sure people who work minimum wage jobs and are just trying to get by don't have the luxury to wage a questionable ideological and economic war, something you seem to take for granted. For many people such a drastic increase in energy prices is the difference between barely getting by and choosing which days to go hungry.