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That's why I, and every other enthusiast photographer I know, keep my archive locally, meaning on my laptops hardrive and an external one as backup. You cannot
by hef19898 4y ago
That's why I, and every other enthusiast photographer I know, keep my archive locally, meaning on my laptops hardrive and an external one as backup. You cannot trust any cloud provider to properly maintain your data, and external storage is becoming cheaper every year.
- newZWhoDis 4y ago> You cannot trust any cloud provider to properly maintain your data, and external storage is becoming cheaper every year. Exactly, and setting up a NAS has never been easier.
- reaperducer 4y agoFor 99% of people, a NAS is overkill. Plug-and-play USB drives get the job done at a fraction of the complexity.
- newZWhoDis 4y agoI love having a NAS that replaces Time Machine, Dropbox, iCloud, Netflix, Spotify, Disney plus, Hulu, runs home automation, has my security system on it, etc etc. People use so many cloud services and having it all private and self-hosted is absolutely amazing. It’s really not that hard to set up either, and there’s little to maintenance outside replacing a failed drive.
- type-r 4y agoI vastly prefer content be cloud based. Ever since Spotify came out, I've never downloaded music illegally again -- it's just so much better and more convenient. Can't imagine going back to what.cd days and having to download and maintain a music collection manually.
- newZWhoDis 4y agoSure, but then Netflix removed stargate on a whim and one of my favorite shows went poof. That started me down the path to owning all my own media. It also didn’t help that iCloud Photos is a privacy nightmare.
- criddell 4y agoPeople here likely know how to do all that safely, but lots of less technically inclined people end up with their data encrypted and have to choose between starting over or paying a ransom. I have a QNAP device so I follow their subreddit and there's a steady stream of people who have lost everything to ransomware because their NAS was visible from the internet. I follow the standard advice from that subreddit - keep it behind a firewall with UPnP turned off and no ports forwarded to the NAS and never enable MyQNAPCloud (or whatever it's called).
- newZWhoDis 4y agoSeems like more of a QNAP problem than anything
- sockaddr 4y agoYup. QNAP software quality (and hardware) is complete garbage. I’ve off and on tried to incorporate them into my “system” and they always let me down. You’re putting everything at risk using one of their boxes.
- fomine3 4y agoNot only: https://nascompares.com/2022/03/01/terramaster-nas-devices-being-attacked-by-deadbolt-ransomware/ https://nascompares.com/2022/03/01/terramaster-nas-devices-b...
- haidev 4y agoMind sharing your setup, I’d love to replicate it. Thanks
- newZWhoDis 4y ago8 bay synology with 60TB usable, multiple docker containers running for tools as part of my setup.
- nobodyandproud 4y agoA toaster box NAS with hotswap drives, RAID, and support for Android and iOS is a reality.
- pronoiac 4y agoOne benefit of a NAS: my data's robust against any single drive dying, which is something that's happened to me, friends, and family.
- madiator 4y agoWhat will you do if there is a fire and you lose your laptop and the external hard disk?
- hef19898 4y agoLaw of propability: I had zero dataloses due to fire, some data loss due to loosing a thumb drive backup and some data losses due to cloud storage shennenigans.
- madiator 4y agoHmm. I highly recommend a three way redundancy as others have mentioned. Put a copy in the cloud or store your harddisks somewhere else.
- hef19898 4y agoYou are right, a cloud storage would make things a tad saver. Personally, I made a point in not putting anything in the cloud, especially none of the big providers, since I value my privacy and just don't trust any o those companies.
- capableweb 4y agoCreate a new backup from the cloud provider one. Vice-versa if the cloud provider backup gets lost. Chances of loosing both at the same are minuscule.
- iforgotpassword 4y agoA photo book doesn't sound much better for that either.
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- Pxtl 4y agoI do both, personally. Have everything on my HD and on the Google cloud. That seems like an appropriate level of redundancy.
- iLoveOncall 4y ago> You cannot trust any cloud provider to properly maintain your data I trust any cloud provider a lot more than my lazy self. > and external storage is becoming cheaper every year Sure, but electricity isn't. At the current price in the UK it seems like running a small NAS would be 10 GBP per month, more than most online storage solutions. That is without counting the initial investment of buying the NAS, the cost of maintaining it (if I have to spend an hour a month on maintenance, that's $1000+ a year of time wasted), the footprint of the NAS, the noise, the heat, etc.
- pixl97 4y agoWhy not both. A backup in one place isn't a backup. The 3, 2, 1 rule and all.
- iLoveOncall 4y agoOf course, but then my solution will be an external drive, not a NAS.
- ghaff 4y agoYeah. I have a NAS for other purposes but redundant external USB drives is the easiest solution. You can even periodically make a clone and store it somewhere else.
- ocdtrekkie 4y agoIt sounds like you know... very little on the topic. My NAS requires no maintenance, it makes no sound while running, and costs maybe pennies to run. Meanwhile, there hasn't been a cloud provider without massive reliability or data loss issues. My NAS has better uptime than Amazon, Microsoft, or Google.
- SECProto 4y agoTheir estimate of £10/month seems reasonable to me – that's basically 1 or 2 kWh of electricity per day (can't find current UK electricity rates). Is your NAS under 40W power draw? > costs maybe pennies to run. Pennies per hour, per day, or per month?
- flatiron 4y agoAs an enthusiast photographer with a lot of inner circle friends: we encrypt and backup to cloud. 0 degradation.
- dv35z 4y agoCan you share some specifics on the setup? Trying to do something similar. Haven’t tried it yet, but MacOS can create encrypted “sparse images”, which can be mounted and contain files. I’d like find to a better way, especially something that could stand the test of some time (10 years seems reasonable).
- flatiron 4y agohttps://rclone.org/crypt/ https://rclone.org/crypt/
- Finnucane 4y agoNow imagine you are old like me and got your first camera in 1972, and still have all the film.
- tlavoie 4y agoThere are services that will take your film, and get you a pile of images back. I did that some years ago, as my folks had hundreds of slides.
- emkoemko 4y agowhat happens when your house floods, burns down etc? you need to keep another backup off site somewhere, i keep it at my parents house just in case.