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Most likely, Italy and eastern Europe, who are net importers. Germany is a net exporter, so they would only have blackouts out of solidarity.

lultimouomo 4y ago
Blackouts wouldn't happen when wind and solar are plenty, which is when Germany is exporting. They would happen on windless rainy day, during which Germany is importing electricity.
jotm 4y ago
What Eastern Europe? Romania (pretty balanced and not reliant on gas) and Poland (mostly coal, locally mined) are self sufficient. Baltics maybe?
- tomwojcik 4y ago
  Re Poland locally mined - i dont know wtf went wrong but we went from having huge reserves to buying from India within a year... A lot of homes rely on coal to be available by the time the winter comes and apparently they are left with nothing. People stand in line for a few days (literally, husband/wife/kid rotation in the queue) just to get the ticket for the coal. The ticket guarantees you to get the coal once the previous orders are filled. My friends waited in such queue a few weeks ago. Eta for coal delivery for a private household if you went through all this hussle: April.
  - rightbyte 4y ago
    When the Covid hoarding panic set in someone bought all yeast in my local super market. Couldn't get any for weeks becouse people started hoarding when it hit the shelves. I guess some of your neighbours have years worth of coal ... and toilet paper, of course.
- argulane 4y ago
  Baltics are mostly self-sufficient. But the problem is that baltic countries are still syncronized to the russian grid. Russians could disconnect us any time and make our power grid unstable until we sync up with rest of the Europe. https://news.err.ee/1608726511/estonia-grid-connected-to-europe-in-12-hours-in-event-of-russia-blackout https://news.err.ee/1608726511/estonia-grid-connected-to-eur...
koheripbal 4y ago
Without Russian imports, Germany is only a net exporter when their renewables are running. This winter Germany will suffer major shortages of power.
- quonn 4y ago
  No we won‘t. Gas storages will be almost completely full and the usage has already dropped a lot. Maybe next winter. But by then we probably have a replacement.
yolo3000 4y ago
You mean Germany is a net exporter of imported Russian gas.

lultimouomo 4y ago

Blackouts wouldn't happen when wind and solar are plenty, which is when Germany is exporting. They would happen on windless rainy day, during which Germany is importing electricity.

jotm 4y ago

What Eastern Europe? Romania (pretty balanced and not reliant on gas) and Poland (mostly coal, locally mined) are self sufficient. Baltics maybe?

tomwojcik 4y ago
Re Poland locally mined - i dont know wtf went wrong but we went from having huge reserves to buying from India within a year... A lot of homes rely on coal to be available by the time the winter comes and apparently they are left with nothing. People stand in line for a few days (literally, husband/wife/kid rotation in the queue) just to get the ticket for the coal. The ticket guarantees you to get the coal once the previous orders are filled. My friends waited in such queue a few weeks ago. Eta for coal delivery for a private household if you went through all this hussle: April.
- rightbyte 4y ago
  When the Covid hoarding panic set in someone bought all yeast in my local super market. Couldn't get any for weeks becouse people started hoarding when it hit the shelves. I guess some of your neighbours have years worth of coal ... and toilet paper, of course.
argulane 4y ago
Baltics are mostly self-sufficient. But the problem is that baltic countries are still syncronized to the russian grid. Russians could disconnect us any time and make our power grid unstable until we sync up with rest of the Europe. https://news.err.ee/1608726511/estonia-grid-connected-to-europe-in-12-hours-in-event-of-russia-blackout https://news.err.ee/1608726511/estonia-grid-connected-to-eur...

koheripbal 4y ago

Without Russian imports, Germany is only a net exporter when their renewables are running. This winter Germany will suffer major shortages of power.

quonn 4y ago
No we won‘t. Gas storages will be almost completely full and the usage has already dropped a lot. Maybe next winter. But by then we probably have a replacement.

yolo3000 4y ago

You mean Germany is a net exporter of imported Russian gas.