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I found this intriguing and interesting: > Nutrient deficiencies do not explain this association. The nature of the association remains unclear, and longitudin

by AnonC 4y ago

I found this intriguing and interesting: > Nutrient deficiencies do not explain this association. The nature of the association remains unclear, and longitudinal data are needed to clarify causal relationship.

curiousfab 4y ago
Maybe people who are vegetarians have a more compassionate way of thinking, making them more prone to depression? I.e. they're not depressed because they're vegetarians, but the other way around? Just my spontaneous thought when I read this.
candiddevmike 4y ago
Really sounds like some kind of nutritional deficiency though, specifically Vitamin B12: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7688056/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7688056/
- cinntaile 4y ago
  It seems unlikely that the nutritional researchers would have missed checking for vitamin B12 deficiency?
shever73 4y ago
That is an interesting paragraph. I wonder if it could be linked to people often choosing a meatless diet due to animal cruelty concerns. The more aware of it you are, the more you see it. A bit like veterinarians having higher rates of depression.
- dominotw 4y ago
  This was done in brazil which is a very meat focused culture. Not eating meat automatically makes you an outsider or maybe people doing this are outsiders in the first place. Outsiders = depression :) > Limitations. > The cross-sectional design precluded the investigation of causal relationships.
jasonhansel 4y ago
Some have argued that meat contains compounds that, while not strictly essential nutrients, are still beneficial, like creatine. But this is pretty controversial.
wyager 4y ago
What they literally mean is "the model of nutrition we are using does not predict the association". This is evidence that whatever model they're using isn't complete. Nutrition science is still under rapid development, and its epistemic rigor is not yet very high. There are many reasons that plant-based diets are theorized to cause health issues that are not yet conclusively proven or disproven, such as the effects of plant fat profiles on human metabolism. Plants are certainly not chemically fungible with animals, and popular nutritional models do not incorporate many details of this.

by AnonC 4y ago

curiousfab 4y ago

Maybe people who are vegetarians have a more compassionate way of thinking, making them more prone to depression? I.e. they're not depressed because they're vegetarians, but the other way around? Just my spontaneous thought when I read this.

candiddevmike 4y ago

Really sounds like some kind of nutritional deficiency though, specifically Vitamin B12: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7688056/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7688056/

cinntaile 4y ago
It seems unlikely that the nutritional researchers would have missed checking for vitamin B12 deficiency?

shever73 4y ago

That is an interesting paragraph. I wonder if it could be linked to people often choosing a meatless diet due to animal cruelty concerns. The more aware of it you are, the more you see it. A bit like veterinarians having higher rates of depression.

dominotw 4y ago
This was done in brazil which is a very meat focused culture. Not eating meat automatically makes you an outsider or maybe people doing this are outsiders in the first place. Outsiders = depression :) > Limitations. > The cross-sectional design precluded the investigation of causal relationships.

jasonhansel 4y ago

Some have argued that meat contains compounds that, while not strictly essential nutrients, are still beneficial, like creatine. But this is pretty controversial.

wyager 4y ago

What they literally mean is "the model of nutrition we are using does not predict the association". This is evidence that whatever model they're using isn't complete. Nutrition science is still under rapid development, and its epistemic rigor is not yet very high. There are many reasons that plant-based diets are theorized to cause health issues that are not yet conclusively proven or disproven, such as the effects of plant fat profiles on human metabolism. Plants are certainly not chemically fungible with animals, and popular nutritional models do not incorporate many details of this.