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You don’t understand how bad it could get in Europe this year
- djohnston 4y ago
- mburee 4y ago
- frosted-flakes 4y agoThe US has provided close to $18 billion to Ukraine since 2014 to help it maintain its sovereignty.
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- tromp 4y ago> while importing more LNG means constructing dedicated terminals in Europe that can regasify liquid gas, a process which can take anywhere from two to five years. It might have taken that long in normal times. In times of crises, it can be done in as little as half a year [1]. Expect more terminals to become operational in the coming (half) year. [1] https://www.rtvnoord.nl/nieuws/956102/lng-terminal-in-eemshaven-in-gebruik-genomen-half-jaar-geleden-niet-gedacht https://www.rtvnoord.nl/nieuws/956102/lng-terminal-in-eemsha...
- is_true 4y agoThere's also the option to rent a ship that is basically a floating regasification terminal
- bell-cot 4y agoOh, yes. Millions of voters shivering in the dark, or the d*mn obvious prospect of that of looming over them, day-to-day for months on end, are an extremely powerful incentive for politicians, bureaucrats, NIMBY's, profiteering corporate exec., etc. to re-arrange their priorities.
- madballster 4y agoGermany has a floating LNG terminal coming online in December. The author of the article intentionally ignores these.
- pentae 4y agoI guess we'll soon see exactly how right or wrong Trumps predictions were in 2018 that Germany was 'captive' to Russia back when the Germans were all laughing at him for those comments.
- newsclues 4y agoSoon? Hasn't it be been evident since February? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LLZBVTid4I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LLZBVTid4I
- cedilla 4y agoWell, people were rightfully laughing, considering how Trump was and is such a big fan of Putin.
- bell-cot 4y agoWhen somebody you love to hate points out that your ship is only seaworthy in fair weather...denial isn't just a river in Egypt, is it?
- merpnderp 4y agoHe was the only major politician pushing for the one thing that would have hurt Russia the most - European energy independence. I’m not sure how people can see how he consistently pushed for real containment of Russia then ignore it to believe he was BFF’s with Putin.
- sofixa 4y agoWhat sort of bullshit is this? Only major politician pushing for European energy independence? You cannot possibly be serious. This has been talked about, promised on, strategised all across Europe. It's a matter of national policy in countries such as France and Poland, and was always a major talking point in nuclear, hydro, geothermal, solar, wind projects. Trump was just a broken clock.
- belltaco 4y ago>He was the only major politician pushing for the one thing that would have hurt Russia the most - European energy independence No, you're completely wrong. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-eu-summit/obama-tells-eu-to-do-more-to-cut-reliance-on-russian-gas-idUSBREA2P0W220140326 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-eu-summit/obama-tells... From where you getting your news?
- galfarragem 4y agoYes, we do. These days the Eur/Usd exchange rate is on historical lows for a reason.
- hyperbovine 4y agoIt is so weird to buy things using my phone right now and get two notifications, one from Apple wallet showing the nominal amount (in EUR), and one from the Chase app showing the converted amount (USD) which is slightly less. I still cannot get used to this after visiting Europe so many times since the Euro came into effect. It feels like shopping with Monopoly money.
- TMWNN 4y ago
- hallmonitor 4y agoThis is a serious forum for the intellectual elite of Silicone Valley. We do not use words like "copium". Please desist in future comment submissions.
- TMWNN 4y agoI apologize. Let me rephrase: >The amount of denial in the /r/europe thread on the article is OVER 9000.
- loufe 4y agoThis is an open forum for anyone of any intellect and of any place. There are standards, but please don't gatekeep.
- BlargMcLarg 4y agoIt's sarcasm. Note "Silicone".
- enraged_camel 4y agoThe one in r/collapse is way better: https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/xn07z9/you_really_dont_understand_how_bad_it_could_get/ https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/xn07z9/you_really...
- libertine 4y agoQuestion: why are you sharing the thread of reddit comments on an hackernews thread, with a negative twist that people are "coping", or "coming up with excuses to deal with how bad this is going to be bro"?
- TMWNN 4y ago>Question: why are you sharing the thread of reddit comments on an hackernews thread, with a negative twist that people are "coping", or "coming up with excuses to deal with how bad this is going to be bro"? Short answer: Why not? Longer answer: Because the discussion in that Reddit post is exactly what the title of the Fortune article is addressing.
- keewee7 4y agoJust a reminder that both Fortune and Forbes is now almost entirely made up of sponsored articles that often don't mention who the sponsor is even if the sponsor is a foreign government. The most blatant example of this is the Pakistani government sponsoring an article in Forbes calling Pakistan the best place for solo female travelers.
- jdthedisciple 4y agoAre you saying that it's somehow self-evident that Pakistan is not the safest place for solo female travelers? Have you looked at the facts?
- wowokay 4y agoThat’s a joke right?
- loloquwowndueo 4y agoYep : https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-dangerous-countries https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-dang... Pakistan ranks 17th most dangerous, definitely doesn’t sound like the safest.
- benj111 4y agoYes it is self evident. And perhaps more importantly, generally assumed, so if you want to change people's mind, it up to you to provide evidence to the contrary.
- MereInterest 4y agoSomething is "self-evident" if it requires no external information to make a claim. (e.g. "All humans are entitled to equal protection under the law.") That isn't the case here. Rather, that the body of prior shared external knowledge is sufficient that a statement can be taken as a given without needing to justify it within the context of the conversation. (e.g. "Rain falls from the sky.") In this case, Pakistan being an unsafe place for women (second only to Afghanistan as the worst gender gap) is sufficiently well-documented that the statement doesn't require further litigation. [0] https://www.weforum.org/reports/global-gender-gap-report-2022/in-full https://www.weforum.org/reports/global-gender-gap-report-202... (Table 1.1)
- germandiago 4y agoAs an european here it is almost my obligation to remind every european of why we talk about the energy crisis (which is a fact, of course) and we never talk about the causes and who decided that we should support one side or the other. I am against all this 4-bureaucrats-decide whether we enter a war or not, with the devastating consequences for energy and the nuclear risk at which they could potentially involve us in. The opinions about who is bad or good in this war, I do not care. I do not support wars or war involvement. Diplomacy. When you cannot with diplomacy and it is not really your duty, just stay away.
- magic_hamster 4y agoThe ban is diplomacy.
- fit2rule 4y ago
- tromp 4y ago> I do not support wars or war involvement. If Russia comes knocking at your neighbour(ing country)'s doors, wouldn't you want to help them defend? Lest they come knocking on your door shortly after?
- mantas 4y agoMany people in West seem to be unable to grasp how awful it is to have a barbaric invader. And what they do even if you bend over and give up with no resistance because no war. For the defending side, in most cases war is the lesser evil compared to giving up. Aside from standout examples in like Denmark in WW2. But that is extremely early occurrences.
- germandiago 4y ago> For the defending side, in most cases war is the lesser evil compared to giving up You should ask this to every ukranian that goes to die there instead of talking in their name and that just want to leave in peace instead of being locked down in their country to fight, meaning their life is in the hands of others that force them to go to the war to kill each other. This is exactly what I am demanding from EU: do not decide in my name things that block trade, create energy scarcity and on top of that I have to finance. If someone is willing to fight this cause, of course the european bureaucrats the first ones, go fight in the war, but do not involve the rest of us. If some day they come to my door I will decide on that basis. It seems there are a lot of excuses to get into a war that is over 5000 km away from my country. By this measure we should all fighting each other all the time almost. I do not like to be involved into a nuclear risk being at the opposite side of Europe. This is all absurd, no matter the rest of the arguments that are made about how bad or good Putin or Ukraine are. They decide and we pay. Good arrangement! If these people had to pay with their personal wealth do you think they would do it? They would run away god knows where to hide god knows how much money from favors and a ton of things we might not know. A politician is probably the kind of person I trust the least. I am not talking about specifics. I say the profession. Most are bad.
- Woeps 4y agoMeh.... While the article could be right it is also not presenting anything new. Let's see, only time will tell.
- iammjm 4y agoMore scaremongering without much substance - a bit too many “coulds” for my taste
- unnouinceput 4y agoF.U.D. article. Flagged. Like somebody else here already noticed, fortune is not something to be trusted due to article sponsorship; I guess this one was commissioned by FSB&Co, because that's all they have nowadays, online fearmongering, since on war Ukraine is kicking their asses.
- fxtentacle 4y agoI find it rather odd that this article twice claims that rising energy costs were due to worker unions. Also, there's no mention anywhere of what production stops would cause for other countries. Can you imagine building a chip plant without ASML? No. That means they can force rather high prices worldwide. They certainly are correct that it's going to be difficult, but taking about nuclear power plants who needed to shut down due to a hot summer? That seems like a strawman to me, because their cooling is going to be fine in winter.