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Bild is a tabloid. “Bild has been described as "notorious for its mix of gossip, inflammatory language, and sensationalism” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bi

Bild is a tabloid. “Bild has been described as "notorious for its mix of gossip, inflammatory language, and sensationalism” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild The next headline will be “I fooled Hacker News readers…” Another HN story that should have been flagged.

TillE 4y ago
It's weird, in some countries the tabloids aren't exactly respected, but they are taken very seriously, even though they're the same sort of absolute trash. This is very much the case in the UK with quite a number of papers like the Daily Mail and the Sun, and it's the case in Germany with Bild in particular. They have a status which no American would give, say, the New York Post.
- rightbyte 4y ago
  Tabloid was originally the size of the paper itself. Daily Mail is if I remember correctly not a "tabloid"? So I guess bad reputation for tabloids only come to be in countries where all the bad papers and only those had the tabloid paper format.
  - lambertsimnel 4y ago
    I thought the Daily Mail was in tabloid format and had been for a long time, but I think the Daily Mail is called "a tabloid" because of its market positioning, rather than its format. At the turn of the century, the high-circulation, sensationalist daily newspapers were all tabloids, and the more sober of the major daily newspapers were all in the larger broadsheet format. At least, in England they were; I don't know about the other nations of the United Kingdom. The Guardian (via the Berliner format) and the Times have since gone tabloid (and the Independent went from broadsheet to tabloid before going digital-only), but the Telegraph and the Financial Times are still broadsheets. People still include the Guardian, Times and Independent among "the broadsheets". Wikipedia suggests the Daily Mail was also once a broadsheet, and became a tabloid in 1971: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Overview https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Overview
- vertis 4y ago
  As much as the Daily Mail is trashy it usually has more details than the other papers. A month back there was a murder outside a Korean restaurant in London. The BBC and others had only passing details[0] (though they eventually got to same place 4 days later[1]). > Witnesses said violence broke out near the restaurant. // One man who was in a building on the side road said: "There was shouting in the street and it escalated into a full-blown row. There was a weapon and someone fell to the ground." (BBC[0]) Compared to The Daily Mail's[2] article: > The incident is alleged to have involved workers at the restaurant, which claims to be the first in the UK having opened in 1975. // A worker in a nearby shop said the violence had broken out inside. // Another onlooker said: 'I saw two men outside the Korean restaurant arguing. They were really shouting at each other. // 'I couldn't hear what they were saying but they appeared to be Korean. Then they both went inside.' (Daily Mail[2]) It's the Daily Mail that tells a more accurate accounting. With the BBC and no real details you might believe from this incident that you could get stabbed near Oxford St. The extra details in the Daily mail indicate it was an altercation between workers -- something that has been confirmed now that the Chef has been charged. Given the propensity of my mother (in Australia) to read vague articles and decide that I'm going to get murdered overseas, sometimes more information is better. Note: I know there plenty of examples where the Daily Mail has stepped over the line and not in the public interest. [0]: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62549371 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62549371 [1]: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62605945 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62605945 [2]: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11113105/Man-stabbed-death-near-busy-Oxford-Street-broad-daylight.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11113105/Man-stabbe...
  - shever73 4y ago
    I wouldn’t necessarily always conflate the Daily Mail’s “more detail” with “more accurate detail”. I personally know the subject of one of the Daily Mail’s (and other red top papers) more lurid stories and most of the “details” are completely fabricated. The ones that aren’t are not newsworthy. Unfortunately, their approach seems to be to print what they like, even if it’s total fiction, knowing that the average person doesn’t have the resources or inclination to go after them.
- lambertsimnel 4y ago
  I think British newspapers have more in common with American TV news than with American newspapers. Don't Americans take Fox News as seriously Brits take the Mail and the Sun?
corndoge 4y ago
But what did you think about the article?
morsch 4y ago
Millions read Bild every day, unfortunately, and other publications in Germany and the rest of the world also had the story. The hacker news submission is missing a 2015 tag.
Nition 4y ago
Many other places also ran the same news.

TillE 4y ago

It's weird, in some countries the tabloids aren't exactly respected, but they are taken very seriously, even though they're the same sort of absolute trash. This is very much the case in the UK with quite a number of papers like the Daily Mail and the Sun, and it's the case in Germany with Bild in particular. They have a status which no American would give, say, the New York Post.

rightbyte 4y ago
Tabloid was originally the size of the paper itself. Daily Mail is if I remember correctly not a "tabloid"? So I guess bad reputation for tabloids only come to be in countries where all the bad papers and only those had the tabloid paper format.
- lambertsimnel 4y ago
  I thought the Daily Mail was in tabloid format and had been for a long time, but I think the Daily Mail is called "a tabloid" because of its market positioning, rather than its format. At the turn of the century, the high-circulation, sensationalist daily newspapers were all tabloids, and the more sober of the major daily newspapers were all in the larger broadsheet format. At least, in England they were; I don't know about the other nations of the United Kingdom. The Guardian (via the Berliner format) and the Times have since gone tabloid (and the Independent went from broadsheet to tabloid before going digital-only), but the Telegraph and the Financial Times are still broadsheets. People still include the Guardian, Times and Independent among "the broadsheets". Wikipedia suggests the Daily Mail was also once a broadsheet, and became a tabloid in 1971: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Overview https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Overview
vertis 4y ago
As much as the Daily Mail is trashy it usually has more details than the other papers. A month back there was a murder outside a Korean restaurant in London. The BBC and others had only passing details[0] (though they eventually got to same place 4 days later[1]). > Witnesses said violence broke out near the restaurant. // One man who was in a building on the side road said: "There was shouting in the street and it escalated into a full-blown row. There was a weapon and someone fell to the ground." (BBC[0]) Compared to The Daily Mail's[2] article: > The incident is alleged to have involved workers at the restaurant, which claims to be the first in the UK having opened in 1975. // A worker in a nearby shop said the violence had broken out inside. // Another onlooker said: 'I saw two men outside the Korean restaurant arguing. They were really shouting at each other. // 'I couldn't hear what they were saying but they appeared to be Korean. Then they both went inside.' (Daily Mail[2]) It's the Daily Mail that tells a more accurate accounting. With the BBC and no real details you might believe from this incident that you could get stabbed near Oxford St. The extra details in the Daily mail indicate it was an altercation between workers -- something that has been confirmed now that the Chef has been charged. Given the propensity of my mother (in Australia) to read vague articles and decide that I'm going to get murdered overseas, sometimes more information is better. Note: I know there plenty of examples where the Daily Mail has stepped over the line and not in the public interest. [0]: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62549371 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62549371 [1]: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62605945 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62605945 [2]: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11113105/Man-stabbed-death-near-busy-Oxford-Street-broad-daylight.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11113105/Man-stabbe...
- shever73 4y ago
  I wouldn’t necessarily always conflate the Daily Mail’s “more detail” with “more accurate detail”. I personally know the subject of one of the Daily Mail’s (and other red top papers) more lurid stories and most of the “details” are completely fabricated. The ones that aren’t are not newsworthy. Unfortunately, their approach seems to be to print what they like, even if it’s total fiction, knowing that the average person doesn’t have the resources or inclination to go after them.
lambertsimnel 4y ago
I think British newspapers have more in common with American TV news than with American newspapers. Don't Americans take Fox News as seriously Brits take the Mail and the Sun?

corndoge 4y ago

But what did you think about the article?

morsch 4y ago

Millions read Bild every day, unfortunately, and other publications in Germany and the rest of the world also had the story. The hacker news submission is missing a 2015 tag.

Nition 4y ago

Many other places also ran the same news.