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> It's actually extremely rare for your average person to get locked out of their Google account It’s also extremely rare for an average person’s house to burn

> It's actually extremely rare for your average person to get locked out of their Google account It’s also extremely rare for an average person’s house to burn down. Or extremely rare for a 500 year flood. Or an asteroid hitting the earth. Should we not prepare for, avoid, and mitigate these risks? It’s not telling people to store flat files in the cloud. It’s encouraging sustainable protocols that decompose to strong flat files in the cloud. Story time is when ynab originally just write their files to a file structure and used Dropbox to sync. Then they switched to saas, charged people a monthly fee and store customer data in their proprietary cloud. One day ynab will go away and so will their data. Their earlier method will last forever because of the portability of flat files. Customer lock in makes companies more money.

BurritoAlPastor 4y ago
People are also not really expected to be individually responsible for mitigating flood or fire risk; they buy insurance. People can’t buy insurance for getting locked out of their Google account. We’re currently in a “well it’s your own fault for not owning and furnishing a second house in case the first one burns down” situation for digital property.
- nyokodo 4y ago
  > People can’t buy insurance for getting locked out of their Google account Maybe they should be able to? I’d purchase that kind of insurance!
  - t_mann 4y ago
    That might actually be interesting, because then there'd be actors who could give Google and the other BigTechs a lot more heat than any individual user can over unjustified account deletions (to avoid having to pay out the insurance premium).
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- Retric 4y ago
  People are expected to mitigate flood risk by not moving to flood prone areas.
- prepend 4y ago
  You mitigate that risk through other means, like not using Google and instead using a provider with better customer service. Just like I wouldn’t mitigate 500 year flood plain but would instead never buy or build a house there.
coding123 4y ago
No this is not how data is lost. Data is lost because people buy new laptops or other devices and let the old ones rust, thinking, hey if I ever needed it, I can just boot up the old one. Far more chance of losing your data that way.

BurritoAlPastor 4y ago

People are also not really expected to be individually responsible for mitigating flood or fire risk; they buy insurance. People can’t buy insurance for getting locked out of their Google account. We’re currently in a “well it’s your own fault for not owning and furnishing a second house in case the first one burns down” situation for digital property.

nyokodo 4y ago
> People can’t buy insurance for getting locked out of their Google account Maybe they should be able to? I’d purchase that kind of insurance!
- t_mann 4y ago
  That might actually be interesting, because then there'd be actors who could give Google and the other BigTechs a lot more heat than any individual user can over unjustified account deletions (to avoid having to pay out the insurance premium).
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Retric 4y ago
People are expected to mitigate flood risk by not moving to flood prone areas.
prepend 4y ago
You mitigate that risk through other means, like not using Google and instead using a provider with better customer service. Just like I wouldn’t mitigate 500 year flood plain but would instead never buy or build a house there.

coding123 4y ago

No this is not how data is lost. Data is lost because people buy new laptops or other devices and let the old ones rust, thinking, hey if I ever needed it, I can just boot up the old one. Far more chance of losing your data that way.