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North Korea also got nukes. Should we allow it to invade South Korea if it wants to? Also: Russia is not USSR. I find it highly questionable that a country t

by trasz 4y ago

North Korea also got nukes. Should we allow it to invade South Korea if it wants to? Also: Russia is not USSR. I find it highly questionable that a country that can’t even manufacture ordinary cars has the capability to refurbish nuclear warheads.

sylware 4y ago
North Korea: who is "we"? As far as I know, North Korea could nuke South Korea, but for what? They would not occupy South Korea, they could use South Korea as slaves (but I don't think China would let that happen). And as far as I know, South Korea is not a member of any nuclear umbrella treaty. Same goes for any asian country. omg... did you see the massive vehicules carrying 20 nukes ballistic missiles russia can manufacture. Putin's regime will very probably get "what" it wants (yeah... "what" is blurry at best)
- trasz 4y ago
  Putin’s regime can’t occupy Ukraine either. They only want to destroy superior Ukrainian nation. So once again, should we allow NK to do what Russia is doing, ie destroy South Korea, with impunity? Also, not sure if you are following the war at all, but Russia is falling terribly. Of the three fronts opened they already lost two. They hadn’t had any meaningful advances for many months now, despite throwing in everything they had. We aren’t talking about Putin’s regime achieving some wins, we are talking about Russia surviving in its current shape.
  - sylware 4y ago
    Who is "we"? In "should we allow"... NK can nuke SK whenever they want since SK has no nuclear umbrella, same goes for any asian country. That said, I wonder how China would react. I don't see putin's regime occupying the whole ukraine, but some territories with pro-putin's regime ukrainians... which would actually become part of russia. That seems perfectly realistic. They did not throw everything they had: nukes. And the failing of putin's army is extremely dangerous. He could use nukes to account for the failing of its army. That's why it is urgent to find a way out of this weird, really weird conflict.
    - trasz 4y ago
      “We” is, at this point, humanity. Russia no longer has allies that matter, in particular China and Kazakhstan are against the invasion. Same would be the case with NK. Nukes are not a magic wand. They don’t guarantee victory - in fact, it’s perfectly reasonable to oppose them using conventional means, given a colossal weapons imbalance between NATO and Russia. And that’s again assuming that “Nigeria with nukes” can refurbish them, which is doubtful, and that assumptions of MAD are still true, which is doubtful as well.
      - sylware 4y ago
        Ok, then how this "humanity" will block putin's regime to use nukes? "magic" or "super heroes"? And now nukes don't guarantee victory? ...
        trasz 4y ago
        You might want to do some reading about how nuclear warfare works.
        sylware 4y ago
        dude... it is not the cold war: one "side" has nukes, the other side nil. And actually, there is so much disinformation, I am not even sure of the meaning of "sides" here. I play dota2, mixed ukrainian-russian pro teams are from the best in the world and are _currently_ competing. All of them will be traitors in their respective country??? All that does not make any sense. Hope a way out of this weird conflict is found soon.
        _kbh_ 4y ago
        > Hope a way out of this weird conflict is found soon. Only way out of this conflict is for Russia to leave all of Ukraine (including Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk). Unfortunately due to Russias attitude regarding the war this can only be done by force.

by trasz 4y ago

sylware 4y ago

North Korea: who is "we"? As far as I know, North Korea could nuke South Korea, but for what? They would not occupy South Korea, they could use South Korea as slaves (but I don't think China would let that happen). And as far as I know, South Korea is not a member of any nuclear umbrella treaty. Same goes for any asian country. omg... did you see the massive vehicules carrying 20 nukes ballistic missiles russia can manufacture. Putin's regime will very probably get "what" it wants (yeah... "what" is blurry at best)

trasz 4y ago
Putin’s regime can’t occupy Ukraine either. They only want to destroy superior Ukrainian nation. So once again, should we allow NK to do what Russia is doing, ie destroy South Korea, with impunity? Also, not sure if you are following the war at all, but Russia is falling terribly. Of the three fronts opened they already lost two. They hadn’t had any meaningful advances for many months now, despite throwing in everything they had. We aren’t talking about Putin’s regime achieving some wins, we are talking about Russia surviving in its current shape.
- sylware 4y ago
  Who is "we"? In "should we allow"... NK can nuke SK whenever they want since SK has no nuclear umbrella, same goes for any asian country. That said, I wonder how China would react. I don't see putin's regime occupying the whole ukraine, but some territories with pro-putin's regime ukrainians... which would actually become part of russia. That seems perfectly realistic. They did not throw everything they had: nukes. And the failing of putin's army is extremely dangerous. He could use nukes to account for the failing of its army. That's why it is urgent to find a way out of this weird, really weird conflict.
  - trasz 4y ago
    “We” is, at this point, humanity. Russia no longer has allies that matter, in particular China and Kazakhstan are against the invasion. Same would be the case with NK. Nukes are not a magic wand. They don’t guarantee victory - in fact, it’s perfectly reasonable to oppose them using conventional means, given a colossal weapons imbalance between NATO and Russia. And that’s again assuming that “Nigeria with nukes” can refurbish them, which is doubtful, and that assumptions of MAD are still true, which is doubtful as well.
    - sylware 4y ago
      Ok, then how this "humanity" will block putin's regime to use nukes? "magic" or "super heroes"? And now nukes don't guarantee victory? ...
      - trasz 4y ago
        You might want to do some reading about how nuclear warfare works.
        sylware 4y ago
        dude... it is not the cold war: one "side" has nukes, the other side nil. And actually, there is so much disinformation, I am not even sure of the meaning of "sides" here. I play dota2, mixed ukrainian-russian pro teams are from the best in the world and are _currently_ competing. All of them will be traitors in their respective country??? All that does not make any sense. Hope a way out of this weird conflict is found soon.
        _kbh_ 4y ago
        > Hope a way out of this weird conflict is found soon. Only way out of this conflict is for Russia to leave all of Ukraine (including Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk). Unfortunately due to Russias attitude regarding the war this can only be done by force.