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Sort of. I encounter many miserable looking poorly equipped people constantly asking me to take selfies of them posing with a fake smile. I was stopped 7 times

by gw99 4y ago

Sort of. I encounter many miserable looking poorly equipped people constantly asking me to take selfies of them posing with a fake smile. I was stopped 7 times on a 50km hike recently. People want to be seen to do it. They don’t appear to be enjoying it though. Edit: ironically considering the article I tend to wear AirPods now because people don’t ask me to do it.

mercutio2 4y ago
Pedantic nitpick that doesn’t diminish your point (you don’t like people doing photography and especially involving you in it, in the woods): If they’re asking someone who is not themself to take a photo, the photo in question is, by definition, not a selfie.
- gw99 4y ago
  One of my hobbies is outdoor photography. I don’t mind people taking actual photos of the outside. The objection is having 75% of the frame taken up by someone repetitively taking photos of the same pose (the good side of their face) while doing an impression of a fish and/or wearing something completely in appropriate that is going to land them in hospital one day from hypothermia. As for the selfie, I’m on the fence on your semantic definition. I consider myself to be a meat flavoured selfie stick when asked. I’m merely a tool that happened to be walking past that is good for pointing their device at a bulbous ass obscuring the scenery.
- zimpenfish 4y ago
  I think the generally accepted meaning of "selfie" has drifted far enough into including "photos of my(self) taken with my phone at my request" that nitpicking about it has similarly drifted into the "WELL ACHURLY, literally doesn't mean that" school of prescriptivist nonsense.
  - yakubin 4y ago
    That’s the first time I see “selfie” used in that sense. Even descriptively, I don’t think the word means that.
  - mercutio2 4y ago
    I am willing to allow language to shift. But I have literally (in its original meaning!) never heard anyone but gw99 describe “pictures of myself taken by a bystander” as a selfie. I’ve taken a lot of posed photos of tourists with their own cameras, I don’t see why “the camera is now a phone” would make that phenomenon merge with the specific thing people do with the front facing camera. “Me, posed at destination” seems like a wholly distinct phenomenon to me.
    - zimpenfish 4y ago
      > I have literally (in its original meaning!) never heard anyone Well, the wandering nature of the word has been linguistically noted since at least 2014 by my knowledge[1]. Read more linguist blogs, I guess? [1] https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=11205 https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=11205
      - mercutio2 4y ago
        Fascinating! I wonder what subcultures of Americans use the word this way.

by gw99 4y ago

mercutio2 4y ago

Pedantic nitpick that doesn’t diminish your point (you don’t like people doing photography and especially involving you in it, in the woods): If they’re asking someone who is not themself to take a photo, the photo in question is, by definition, not a selfie.

gw99 4y ago
One of my hobbies is outdoor photography. I don’t mind people taking actual photos of the outside. The objection is having 75% of the frame taken up by someone repetitively taking photos of the same pose (the good side of their face) while doing an impression of a fish and/or wearing something completely in appropriate that is going to land them in hospital one day from hypothermia. As for the selfie, I’m on the fence on your semantic definition. I consider myself to be a meat flavoured selfie stick when asked. I’m merely a tool that happened to be walking past that is good for pointing their device at a bulbous ass obscuring the scenery.
zimpenfish 4y ago
I think the generally accepted meaning of "selfie" has drifted far enough into including "photos of my(self) taken with my phone at my request" that nitpicking about it has similarly drifted into the "WELL ACHURLY, literally doesn't mean that" school of prescriptivist nonsense.
- yakubin 4y ago
  That’s the first time I see “selfie” used in that sense. Even descriptively, I don’t think the word means that.
- mercutio2 4y ago
  I am willing to allow language to shift. But I have literally (in its original meaning!) never heard anyone but gw99 describe “pictures of myself taken by a bystander” as a selfie. I’ve taken a lot of posed photos of tourists with their own cameras, I don’t see why “the camera is now a phone” would make that phenomenon merge with the specific thing people do with the front facing camera. “Me, posed at destination” seems like a wholly distinct phenomenon to me.
  - zimpenfish 4y ago
    > I have literally (in its original meaning!) never heard anyone Well, the wandering nature of the word has been linguistically noted since at least 2014 by my knowledge[1]. Read more linguist blogs, I guess? [1] https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=11205 https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=11205
    - mercutio2 4y ago
      Fascinating! I wonder what subcultures of Americans use the word this way.