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Eh, I think the fact that they are not healthier (by fat or calorie content, I forget which) is a major deterrent. Admittedly, this is a very informal survey,
by zdragnar 4y ago
Eh, I think the fact that they are not healthier (by fat or calorie content, I forget which) is a major deterrent.
Admittedly, this is a very informal survey, but of the people I know of who have tried one, all of them claimed that not eating meat was not a big enough motivation to change. They'd rather they also be healthier than they actually are.
Cheaper might actually harm adoption. when you compare eating ground meat to an engineered product, making the engineered product cheaper just makes it seem more like processed junk food.
- mandarax8 4y agoIs it not more like processed junk food?
- zdragnar 4y agoI was referring more to what the pricing does to consumer perception- of course, it is very much heavily processed, and not particularly healthy.
- RC_ITR 4y agoGenerally, they are lower in saturated fat, but that’s less of a “lose weight this year” improvement and more of a “reduce your chance of a heart attack in 20 years” improvement.
- ericmcer 4y agoWe really don't know that, and there is a huge difference between eating canola or palm oil and eating beef fat (although we throw them all under a blanket "saturated" label). I would guess beyond is using a variety of seed, palm, and coconut oils to fatten the burgers. Everyone can have their own opinion on this but I believe animal fats are healthier than those seed oils.
- AlexandrB 4y agoEveryone can have their own opinion but the best research says that replacing animal fats with plant fats in one's diet leads to longer life: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qInpEKHdjXk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qInpEKHdjXk
- merrywhether 4y agoThese claims have been coming under scrutiny: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32724569 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32724569
- RC_ITR 4y agoIf you read that article, the “scrutiny” is that the original research didn’t factor in potential benefits of vitamins in meat, which feels like a stretch.
- anonuser123456 4y agoThe best research does not say this. The best research is completely unclear since nutritional epidemiology is plagued with bad data, bad science and political agendas one way or the other.
- ericmcer 4y agoGood video, I am a little suspicious of the neutrality of a channel called "plant chompers" with other videos about how plant protein is as good as meat protein etc. but it has some good points.
- nxmnxm99 4y agoThe "best research" 20 years ago said fat free was the solution, now everybody is walking around with mental health issues. When it comes to nutritional science there's WAY too much corporate influence to trust "the best research" at any given point in time.
- spookthesunset 4y agoNo to mention it is super hard to do any kind of real world research on long term effects of certain foods. Plus the food we eat does all kinds of stuff to our bodies. What is good for our bodies on one dimension might be bad on another. Our interaction with food is incredibly complex.
- bawolff 4y ago> eating canola or palm oil and eating beef fat (although we throw them all under a blanket "saturated" label) Wait, what? Canola oil does have some saturated fat but is mostly unsaturated fat. (You know, because its "oil")
- zdragnar 4y agoPerhaps coconut oil was intended? That's been a big fad, though lately not in processed foods except for keto snacks.
- ericmcer 4y agoIn retrospect it should have been obvious that they would not be healthy. Taking a bunch of plants and heavily processing them to make them look, taste and feel like ground beef is clearly not going to be as healthy as just eating plants or eating beef. We just do not understand nutrition and biology well enough yet to do that. The actual "Beyond" meat will be when someone figures out how to grow it safely in a petri dish, hopefully people stop eating meat from slaughtered animals then, but who knows.
- RajT88 4y agoYeah, I mean soy burgers already were full of so many additives they weren't much better than beef. And those have been around for ages.
- Moto7451 4y agoThis is my problem. Id rather have an “old school” black bean or soy based veggie burger. I’m not a low fat adherent or vegetarian but I’d rather have the nutrient density, fiber content, and fewer calories of the traditional alternatives. Otherwise I’m ordering a quality meat product or a salad.
- rchaud 4y agoI had these all the time in college 15 years ago. I liked them! I've had the Beyond Meat burger patties. The taste is not bad at all, but there is an uncanny valley feeling when you eat it (with the manufactured juiciness) that isn't there with black bean burgers. It's also very expensive. In Canada, a pack of 4 patties is $8.49.
- mmastrac 4y agoCostco has a 10-pack for much cheaper (~1/burger IIRC).
- ericbarrett 4y agoThe Costco in my area seems to have dropped plant-based meats altogether. Was looking for black bean burgers today and nada.
- gw99 4y agoThey beyond meat McPlant is a hell of a lot healthier than a Big Mac or a quarter pounder with cheese here in the UK. I’m not a vegetarian as such but the McPlant burgers are rather better tasting as well.
- reaperducer 4y agoI think the fact that they are not healthier (by fat or calorie content, I forget which) is a major deterrent. I think another minor item that's overlooked is that there are a number of people trying to avoid "processed" foods, and there's few foods on the planet more processed than artificial meat. People interested in their health and this line of thinking will take beef from a local butcher over shrink-wrapped frozen frankenfood that is pretending to be beef. I'm not much of a meat-eater. I probably eat meat maybe three or four times a month. But when I do, I get something from the farmer down the street who is happy to show me her cows, pigs, and chickens, and not something from a cardboard box that came from an industrial factory.