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And let's not forget the cows. I'm in no way a vegetarian. And I'm too set in my childhood-established food biases to make huge changes. (I tried for a year or
by wpietri 4y ago
And let's not forget the cows.
I'm in no way a vegetarian. And I'm too set in my childhood-established food biases to make huge changes. (I tried for a year or two. It didn't take.) But the Impossible and Beyond burgers are close enough for me. Could I tell them apart in a patty taste test? Probably. But once it's on a bun with cheese and barbecue sauce and whatnot, I don't notice a difference.
So at that point, I'm like, "Cows are nice animals." I have made the acquaintance of a few and I like them. For an equivalent experience, I can either kill the cow or not. So we've been gradually shifting toward the high-grade fake meats. I look forward to further improvements on this front.
- Elinvynia 4y agoEvery vegetarian should look up "Dairy is scary" on YouTube. Wouldn't be one for much longer.
- swiley-gin 4y ago
- wpietri 4y agoAh, reality. As defined by somebody so unable to function in it that he can't make it 24 hours here without getting 3 flagged/dead comments and a negative karma score. But thank you for the comment. It's nice to know that the people opposed to crazy things like human rights are this dysfunctional. You give me hope for the future.
- Lammy 4y agoI don’t like the push to define humanity as a thing somehow separate from the Earth and all that entails. Cows wouldn’t exist at all if humanity didn’t depend on them. The most pro-cow stance is to raise them with love and respect and use all they offer us without wasting.
- wpietri 4y agoDo you really believe that if everybody turns vegetarian tomorrow cows will just stop existing? If so, India would like a word.
- Lammy 4y agoI’m talking about the past, not the future. Bos taurus/indicus wouldn’t exist without man: https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-the-domestication-of-cows-170652 https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-the-domestication-of-co...
- wpietri 4y agoOk? I don't think that has anything to do with what I said, but you do you.
- stickfigure 4y agoI have grazed steers on my property and they didn't make such a positive impression on me. If they didn't produce beef I'd much rather not have them around.
- robcohen 4y agoNot to go down this annoying rabbit hole, but if you and others didn’t eat it, wouldn’t it not exist in the first place due to lack of market demand? Is a short life with a quick end worse than no life at all. Would it be acceptable if they were sufficiently happy or cared for? Is this a form of slavery and therefore bad? Where do we draw the line? How much freedom and life is a worthy trade off vs no life at all? It seems to me that this argument isn’t sufficiently strong. The global warming argument seems strong.
- wpietri 4y agoBuddy, I'm not making an "argument". I'm explaining my thought process. If I can live my life in ways that are equivalent except one has less unnecessary killing, I'm going to pick that one. If that doesn't matter to you, that's fine by me.