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Huh, tried the impossible burger and a normal one side by side, and I preferred the impossible burger. I still think it's the best thing on their menu. So I th

by thret 4y ago

Huh, tried the impossible burger and a normal one side by side, and I preferred the impossible burger. I still think it's the best thing on their menu. So I think the problem is not the taste, it's simply that people who eat healthy or vegan don't go to burger king in the first place.

koheripbal 4y ago
When I think "burger", I think of one I make on my grill, which is delicious, not a McDs or BK burger. If you compare it to garbage fast food, then of course the impossible burger will be better.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  Then you're discussing pretty minor differences. Plenty of people (a billion a day?) enjoy fast food burgers. This seems like just bragging about having really good taste.
  - stickfigure 4y ago
    I suspect that the core audience for plant-based burgers generally tries to avoid fast food anyway.
    - bombcar 4y ago
      Which was why it was amusing how much marketing dollars were spent getting it into fast food locations (where it inevitably was a “buy once and never again” for the vast majority of those who even bothered to try it).
    - lupire 4y ago
      Why? What does "not torturing animals" have to do with "eating healthy food", aside from "both are goods"? One is an ethical position, and the other is self care, which aren't particularly correlated, except that both require self-control.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    >Plenty of people (a billion a day?) enjoy fast food burgers. Whoa there. "Enjoy" might be a bit generous. I might suggest endure. A lot of people eating fast food burgers are not doing it because they enjoy it, but at their cheap prices it is just something they can afford. Yes, there is a large portion of people that "like" fast food burgers, and that might be a number that reaches "plenty". But I would imagine that enjoyment is similar to when I was a broke ass college age person that could only afford ramen and enjoyed it as being better than nothing.
    - DiggyJohnson 4y ago
      Lol this is kinda crazy: I’m a skinny person that still had to overcome a fast food phase/mild addiction, and my favorite order was 4 junior bacon cheeseburgers from Wendy’s. They are so good I’d love one right now. And I love well prepared burgers. I love steak. And I love goldfish. I disagree strongly with your comment.
      - thret 4y ago
        Wait, what? Why would you eat goldfish?
    - evandale 4y ago
      Foodie gatekeepers are among the most hilarious of all gatekeepers. Everyone has different tastebuds and just because you don't like fast food doesn't mean the whole world doesn't like fast food. I love the fanciest restaurants, but I can still admit the Big Mac is one of the greatest burgers ever created.
      - lupire 4y ago
        If you are young enough, grease tastes good.
    - Klonoar 4y ago
      “Endure” also fits well for regions that are effectively food deserts, where fast food chains might be one of your limited options.
  - DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
    > pretty minor differences There's a massive difference between a McDonald's burger and the kind of burger you'd make fresh (or order at a non-fast-food restaurant). It's not a subtle issue of taste. They're just completely different dishes.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  Fast food burgers don’t taste much worse than frozen or even just refrigerated store-bought patties. Neither are tasty. I guess the pre-made plant burgers will be close to pre-made meat burgers. I wonder if you can make your own burger out of soy granules, which I found to be the closest to ground beef when properly spiced during rehydration. I should try that some time. Tanget: Americans in Germany often say our McD tastes better. I find that fascinating, as McD here tastes absolutely horrible to me.
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    I've never seen anything wrong with grocery store patties. I think the problem with fast food burgers is the bad bread, weird sauces, missing/sparse toppings, and most of all the sloppy half-assed construction. If you make the burger at home with the same patty, it will almost certainly come out much better.
    - throwaway09223 4y ago
      There's nothing wrong with the meat quality per se, but if you're cooking a frozen premade patty you're not properly seasoning it and it's not going to have a good taste. You could thaw it out, break it down, season it and re-form it. But who does that?
      - MichaelCollins 4y ago
        Ngl I don't even know what seasoning I would put on a burger patty. A burger patty to me is just a disc of ground beef, I don't expect anything else from it.
        Kaibeezy 4y ago
        In my experience, if the beef is fresh, high quality, and the right cut, grind and fat content, all it needs is salt on the surface at the time of cooking. The salt mixed into many pre-made patties makes them increasingly rubbery the longer they sit in the supermarket. The seasonings are usually a crapshoot. Toppings are a separate matter. Go to town.
- OJFord 4y ago
  And you probably buy good meat, or even mince it yourself and make your own right? The vegetarian equivalent isn't anything you can buy (in a supermarket anyway), they're all crap, it's making your own with good (non-meat) ingredients.
  - koheripbal 4y ago
    I buy the meat at Costco. No prep. Just grill it properly. 100x better than fast food "burgers"
sudden_dystopia 4y ago
It’s not obvious that fake meat is healthier than real meat.
- paulryanrogers 4y ago
  Depends on the meat and its alternative. Later is always better for the environment
  - Apes 4y ago
    Why does it cost more then?
    - ryukafalz 4y ago
      Because it’s newer and externalities exist?
    - linsomniac 4y ago
      I'm assuming it is because of the lower volume of alternative burgers. Looking at my supermarket, they have probably 150-200 linear feet dedicated to meat and maybe 5-10 for alternatives.
    - pittmajp 4y ago
      Meat is heavily subsidized.
    - DangitBobby 4y ago
      Subsidies. I'll just link my other comment from this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=32964298 https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=32964298
    - lupire 4y ago
      Cows work for free.
- OJFord 4y ago
  I don't think 'healthy' meant no meat there, it was just about (lack of) fast food (whether it be meat or not, but mostly is).

by thret 4y ago

koheripbal 4y ago

When I think "burger", I think of one I make on my grill, which is delicious, not a McDs or BK burger. If you compare it to garbage fast food, then of course the impossible burger will be better.

pessimizer 4y ago
Then you're discussing pretty minor differences. Plenty of people (a billion a day?) enjoy fast food burgers. This seems like just bragging about having really good taste.
- stickfigure 4y ago
  I suspect that the core audience for plant-based burgers generally tries to avoid fast food anyway.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    Which was why it was amusing how much marketing dollars were spent getting it into fast food locations (where it inevitably was a “buy once and never again” for the vast majority of those who even bothered to try it).
  - lupire 4y ago
    Why? What does "not torturing animals" have to do with "eating healthy food", aside from "both are goods"? One is an ethical position, and the other is self care, which aren't particularly correlated, except that both require self-control.
- dylan604 4y ago
  >Plenty of people (a billion a day?) enjoy fast food burgers. Whoa there. "Enjoy" might be a bit generous. I might suggest endure. A lot of people eating fast food burgers are not doing it because they enjoy it, but at their cheap prices it is just something they can afford. Yes, there is a large portion of people that "like" fast food burgers, and that might be a number that reaches "plenty". But I would imagine that enjoyment is similar to when I was a broke ass college age person that could only afford ramen and enjoyed it as being better than nothing.
  - DiggyJohnson 4y ago
    Lol this is kinda crazy: I’m a skinny person that still had to overcome a fast food phase/mild addiction, and my favorite order was 4 junior bacon cheeseburgers from Wendy’s. They are so good I’d love one right now. And I love well prepared burgers. I love steak. And I love goldfish. I disagree strongly with your comment.
    - thret 4y ago
      Wait, what? Why would you eat goldfish?
  - evandale 4y ago
    Foodie gatekeepers are among the most hilarious of all gatekeepers. Everyone has different tastebuds and just because you don't like fast food doesn't mean the whole world doesn't like fast food. I love the fanciest restaurants, but I can still admit the Big Mac is one of the greatest burgers ever created.
    - lupire 4y ago
      If you are young enough, grease tastes good.
  - Klonoar 4y ago
    “Endure” also fits well for regions that are effectively food deserts, where fast food chains might be one of your limited options.
- DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
  > pretty minor differences There's a massive difference between a McDonald's burger and the kind of burger you'd make fresh (or order at a non-fast-food restaurant). It's not a subtle issue of taste. They're just completely different dishes.
Semaphor 4y ago
Fast food burgers don’t taste much worse than frozen or even just refrigerated store-bought patties. Neither are tasty. I guess the pre-made plant burgers will be close to pre-made meat burgers. I wonder if you can make your own burger out of soy granules, which I found to be the closest to ground beef when properly spiced during rehydration. I should try that some time. Tanget: Americans in Germany often say our McD tastes better. I find that fascinating, as McD here tastes absolutely horrible to me.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  I've never seen anything wrong with grocery store patties. I think the problem with fast food burgers is the bad bread, weird sauces, missing/sparse toppings, and most of all the sloppy half-assed construction. If you make the burger at home with the same patty, it will almost certainly come out much better.
  - throwaway09223 4y ago
    There's nothing wrong with the meat quality per se, but if you're cooking a frozen premade patty you're not properly seasoning it and it's not going to have a good taste. You could thaw it out, break it down, season it and re-form it. But who does that?
    - MichaelCollins 4y ago
      Ngl I don't even know what seasoning I would put on a burger patty. A burger patty to me is just a disc of ground beef, I don't expect anything else from it.
      - Kaibeezy 4y ago
        In my experience, if the beef is fresh, high quality, and the right cut, grind and fat content, all it needs is salt on the surface at the time of cooking. The salt mixed into many pre-made patties makes them increasingly rubbery the longer they sit in the supermarket. The seasonings are usually a crapshoot. Toppings are a separate matter. Go to town.
OJFord 4y ago
And you probably buy good meat, or even mince it yourself and make your own right? The vegetarian equivalent isn't anything you can buy (in a supermarket anyway), they're all crap, it's making your own with good (non-meat) ingredients.
- koheripbal 4y ago
  I buy the meat at Costco. No prep. Just grill it properly. 100x better than fast food "burgers"

sudden_dystopia 4y ago

It’s not obvious that fake meat is healthier than real meat.

paulryanrogers 4y ago
Depends on the meat and its alternative. Later is always better for the environment
- Apes 4y ago
  Why does it cost more then?
  - ryukafalz 4y ago
    Because it’s newer and externalities exist?
  - linsomniac 4y ago
    I'm assuming it is because of the lower volume of alternative burgers. Looking at my supermarket, they have probably 150-200 linear feet dedicated to meat and maybe 5-10 for alternatives.
  - pittmajp 4y ago
    Meat is heavily subsidized.
  - DangitBobby 4y ago
    Subsidies. I'll just link my other comment from this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=32964298 https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=32964298
  - lupire 4y ago
    Cows work for free.
OJFord 4y ago
I don't think 'healthy' meant no meat there, it was just about (lack of) fast food (whether it be meat or not, but mostly is).