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I think the current sanctions against Russia are misguided. Yes, we want to support Ukraine, and certainly we should not export weapons or semiconductors. But

by klandy 4y ago

I think the current sanctions against Russia are misguided. Yes, we want to support Ukraine, and certainly we should not export weapons or semiconductors. But I can't follow the argument that petrodollars would help Russia that much. Before and since the 2014 annexation of Crimea, Russia has exported oil/gas without restrictions. Yet it has been unable to build up an army that can proceed much more than 50 km in Ukraine. IOW, the petrodollars have not helped at all. Now we are buying LNG via China and ship it to Europe using polluting ships. We are destroying our economies for no reason. Use targeted sanctions and let the elites in Russia embezzle the petrodollars and buy stuff that can't be used in the war (Ferraris etc.).

croes 4y ago
It's about sending a message. Otherwise Putin wouldn't see any consequences. Now he realizes we will react even if it hurts ourselves.
Bhurn00985 4y ago
> We are destroying our economies for no reason. I would say trying to avoid further destruction of Ukraine and its people is a very good reason. Kindly re-calibrate your moral compass.
- bigtex88 4y ago
  That would assume that people like them have a moral compass to begin with.
- nxmnxm99 4y ago
  Lol moral compass. How much of our economy are we expending to protect Palestinians? Or rebuild Iraq after we massacred one of human histories most storied civilizations for no reason? Where are the morality reparations? Americans invoking morality in their entirely political defence of Ukraine is such a joke.
MrBuddyCasino 4y ago
Its very misguided. Why „U.S. and European attempts to use economic sanctions to cut off Russian oil from the global market was a catastrophic error“: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/09/europe-energy-catastrophe.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/09/europe-energy-catast...
127 4y ago
Have you considered that the sanctions have an effect how far Russia has been able to advance in Ukraine?

by klandy 4y ago

croes 4y ago

It's about sending a message. Otherwise Putin wouldn't see any consequences. Now he realizes we will react even if it hurts ourselves.

Bhurn00985 4y ago

> We are destroying our economies for no reason. I would say trying to avoid further destruction of Ukraine and its people is a very good reason. Kindly re-calibrate your moral compass.

bigtex88 4y ago
That would assume that people like them have a moral compass to begin with.
nxmnxm99 4y ago
Lol moral compass. How much of our economy are we expending to protect Palestinians? Or rebuild Iraq after we massacred one of human histories most storied civilizations for no reason? Where are the morality reparations? Americans invoking morality in their entirely political defence of Ukraine is such a joke.

MrBuddyCasino 4y ago

Its very misguided. Why „U.S. and European attempts to use economic sanctions to cut off Russian oil from the global market was a catastrophic error“: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/09/europe-energy-catastrophe.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/09/europe-energy-catast...

127 4y ago

Have you considered that the sanctions have an effect how far Russia has been able to advance in Ukraine?