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What does your dealer say? Your car is under warranty, I assume.

by chinathrow 4y ago

he0001 4y ago
That it’s a bug and should be fixed with a upgrade, but it hasn’t been fixed yet.
- pfortuny 4y ago
  Wow, the jerking also? That is enough for a recall, or should be! If you are in the EU, have you spoken to the consumer ombudsman (or whatever name it has)?
  - WHATDOESIT 4y ago
    The exact same thing was happening to a Volvo I've driven around 5 years ago (I have never chosen Volvo again since then because of it). I don't think they're going to help now.
- nequo 4y ago
  If you’re in the US, report it to the NHTSA: https://www.nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem#index https://www.nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem#index
tobyhinloopen 4y ago
My dealer just said classics like “we can’t reproduce the issue”, “it’s new software, some bugs still need fixing, we can’t do anything about it”, “weird, we looked at it but couldn’t find anything” and “we changed $something and this should fix $issue” (and it didn’t) I’ve been at the dealer 6 times in 7 months to fix random shit on a brand new car and they managed to fix only two things: the ticking sun roof, and the charge port not opening. (Which is kinda annoying on an EV). Some EV fans like to claim EVs are more reliable because they have less moving parts. These people obviously never owned a computer.
- autotech 4y ago
  For what it's worth, as an auto tech we are limited in what we can do. For a vast majority of car makes, we have no access to anything that happens on the back-end of the control modules. We can look at some data stream on a scan tool, but that is limited at best. There is no debug access or anything of that nature. It's also well outside the skillset of most technicians to delve into software. Also, If you look into the pay plan of most dealer technicians, (flat rate/paid per job) then you understand why we don't want to spend all day looking at your turn signal. We won't get paid for most of the diagnosis time.
  - tobyhinloopen 4y ago
    Your comment perfectly matches the overal attitude of the dealer, and it really pissed me off. I bought a 60k eur car in the same building. I do expect you to waste a day finding an issue on a brand new car. If you don’t want to, don’t sell the POS cars.

What does your dealer say? Your car is under warranty, I assume.

he0001 4y ago

That it’s a bug and should be fixed with a upgrade, but it hasn’t been fixed yet.

pfortuny 4y ago
Wow, the jerking also? That is enough for a recall, or should be! If you are in the EU, have you spoken to the consumer ombudsman (or whatever name it has)?
- WHATDOESIT 4y ago
  The exact same thing was happening to a Volvo I've driven around 5 years ago (I have never chosen Volvo again since then because of it). I don't think they're going to help now.
nequo 4y ago
If you’re in the US, report it to the NHTSA: https://www.nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem#index https://www.nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem#index

tobyhinloopen 4y ago

My dealer just said classics like “we can’t reproduce the issue”, “it’s new software, some bugs still need fixing, we can’t do anything about it”, “weird, we looked at it but couldn’t find anything” and “we changed $something and this should fix $issue” (and it didn’t) I’ve been at the dealer 6 times in 7 months to fix random shit on a brand new car and they managed to fix only two things: the ticking sun roof, and the charge port not opening. (Which is kinda annoying on an EV). Some EV fans like to claim EVs are more reliable because they have less moving parts. These people obviously never owned a computer.

autotech 4y ago
For what it's worth, as an auto tech we are limited in what we can do. For a vast majority of car makes, we have no access to anything that happens on the back-end of the control modules. We can look at some data stream on a scan tool, but that is limited at best. There is no debug access or anything of that nature. It's also well outside the skillset of most technicians to delve into software. Also, If you look into the pay plan of most dealer technicians, (flat rate/paid per job) then you understand why we don't want to spend all day looking at your turn signal. We won't get paid for most of the diagnosis time.
- tobyhinloopen 4y ago
  Your comment perfectly matches the overal attitude of the dealer, and it really pissed me off. I bought a 60k eur car in the same building. I do expect you to waste a day finding an issue on a brand new car. If you don’t want to, don’t sell the POS cars.