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Agreed, but as a sidenote: It's crazy that this is how it works. No other OS does this. I can not not into MacOS or Linux for years, and this still wouldn't ha

by ghusto 4y ago

Agreed, but as a sidenote: It's crazy that this is how it works. No other OS does this. I can not not into MacOS or Linux for years, and this still wouldn't happen.

nikau 4y ago
You can turn all the auto updates off if you have windows pro and above. I cant say ubuntu is immune for example, I've booted into a rarely used ubuntu installation on my laptop before and wanted to test something, and apt was locked due to the update manager running in the background.
zinekeller 4y ago
To be fair, even Windows 7 will not do this (assuming you've configured it to be), it's really Microsoft's insistence on Windows 10 that we have this mess.
xboxnolifes 4y ago
I don't think it's crazy that windows tries to do all this work behind the scenes so the user doesn't have to worry about it. I do find it crazy how poorly Windows seems to be at running forced system background tasks without absolutely throttling a system, without notice, though.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
  The problem is it isn't behind the scenes if the machine is totally unusable. This bad behavior during updates and Windows' tendency to get progressively slower to boot even without adding software is why I walked away.
ThrowawayR2 4y ago
> No other OS does this. Really? I get the "System restart required" advisory from Ubuntu Server pretty much weekly unless I disable the auto-updater.
- kyriakos 4y ago
  I get this on Ubuntu servers too. It just won't force it on you but I assume Windows server doesn't either.
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- 29083011397778 4y ago
  Because the point is not what happens when the user/administrator should reboot, the point is what happens if the user/administrator ignores that advice for a week or two.
- ghusto 4y ago
  That's because something like the kernel is ready to be upgraded, and this is something Windows will also need a rebooted for. Also, _weekly?_ That sounds off.
philjohn 4y ago
Except then you're probably stuck on a version that has exploitable holes UNTIL you upgrade. At least Microsoft is now ensuring people are somewhat protected.

by ghusto 4y ago

Agreed, but as a sidenote: It's crazy that this is how it works. No other OS does this. I can not not into MacOS or Linux for years, and this still wouldn't happen.

nikau 4y ago

You can turn all the auto updates off if you have windows pro and above. I cant say ubuntu is immune for example, I've booted into a rarely used ubuntu installation on my laptop before and wanted to test something, and apt was locked due to the update manager running in the background.

zinekeller 4y ago

To be fair, even Windows 7 will not do this (assuming you've configured it to be), it's really Microsoft's insistence on Windows 10 that we have this mess.

xboxnolifes 4y ago

I don't think it's crazy that windows tries to do all this work behind the scenes so the user doesn't have to worry about it. I do find it crazy how poorly Windows seems to be at running forced system background tasks without absolutely throttling a system, without notice, though.

kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
The problem is it isn't behind the scenes if the machine is totally unusable. This bad behavior during updates and Windows' tendency to get progressively slower to boot even without adding software is why I walked away.

ThrowawayR2 4y ago

> No other OS does this. Really? I get the "System restart required" advisory from Ubuntu Server pretty much weekly unless I disable the auto-updater.

kyriakos 4y ago
I get this on Ubuntu servers too. It just won't force it on you but I assume Windows server doesn't either.
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29083011397778 4y ago
Because the point is not what happens when the user/administrator should reboot, the point is what happens if the user/administrator ignores that advice for a week or two.
ghusto 4y ago
That's because something like the kernel is ready to be upgraded, and this is something Windows will also need a rebooted for. Also, _weekly?_ That sounds off.

philjohn 4y ago

Except then you're probably stuck on a version that has exploitable holes UNTIL you upgrade. At least Microsoft is now ensuring people are somewhat protected.