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I don't know... everything works so well on linux out of the box nowadays, and over time you can setup everything exactly as you want. As an engineer I feel li

by ht85 4y ago

I don't know... everything works so well on linux out of the box nowadays, and over time you can setup everything exactly as you want. As an engineer I feel like it's a great investment and loving my setup has a big impact on the enjoyment I get from work. If you spend the time, can all the annoying stuff be turned off in Windows?

doubled112 4y ago
I loved my Linux setups so much I automated them with some Ansible and a bunch of scripts and config files in a git repo to set up my user profile too. I can't seem to get two Windows installs to be functionally identical the same way. I also can't believe winget is a relatively new invention. You can turn off most of the annoying stuff, for a time. I'm convinced that sometimes settings just change on their own.
yazantapuz 4y ago
A couple of days ago, I give a very brief workshop of Arduino. All the students with Linux boxes have some kind of problems, like the user was not a member of the dialout group or the group does not exist at all. I still prefer Linux, but no everything works "out of the box".
- lelanthran 4y ago
  > All the students with Linux boxes have some kind of problems, like the user was not a member of the dialout group or the group does not exist at all. I still prefer Linux, but no everything works "out of the box". This (requiring elevated privileges) is a very niche thing, though (raw access to the serial port).
  - yazantapuz 4y ago
    But the students with Windows laptops did not have these kind of problems. Although I can think of a lot of issues, in this "very niche thing" Windows worked "out of the box" and Linux didn't.
    - lelanthran 4y ago
      > But the students with Windows laptops did not have these kind of problems. Although I can think of a lot of issues, in this "very niche thing" Windows worked "out of the box" and Linux didn't. Yes, for this very niche thing Windows works out the box. For other not so niche things, Linux works out the box. For the not so niche thing of "set up a LAMP stack" and similar, Windows is pretty poor at it, compared to using apt-get. Also, for this very niche thing, I'm pretty certain that the arduino IDE I installed from the repository worked out the box for serial port access. I'm guessing that you pretended the Linux boxes were Windows, and installed on Linux by downloading it off the arduino distribution site?
      - yazantapuz 4y ago
        > I'm guessing that you pretended the Linux boxes were Windows, and installed on Linux by downloading it off the arduino distribution site? Yes, that was a mistake. But it was not as simple as saying "install from apt-get" because some where using Arch-based distros (pacman), a few were using Fedora (yum) and others Ubuntu. Even so, not always that the user is added to the right group. Also, we wanted to show the new 2.0 IDE.
CoolCold 4y ago
I hardly remember doing any kind of special fighting or annoying stuff. What's your pain points here? Had some issues after Win10->Win11 beta Insider build updates, but that's other story.
epolanski 4y ago
I don't really notice the annoying stuff. Win + WSL gives you both Linux and Windows tools at your disposal.

by ht85 4y ago

doubled112 4y ago

I loved my Linux setups so much I automated them with some Ansible and a bunch of scripts and config files in a git repo to set up my user profile too. I can't seem to get two Windows installs to be functionally identical the same way. I also can't believe winget is a relatively new invention. You can turn off most of the annoying stuff, for a time. I'm convinced that sometimes settings just change on their own.

yazantapuz 4y ago

A couple of days ago, I give a very brief workshop of Arduino. All the students with Linux boxes have some kind of problems, like the user was not a member of the dialout group or the group does not exist at all. I still prefer Linux, but no everything works "out of the box".

lelanthran 4y ago
> All the students with Linux boxes have some kind of problems, like the user was not a member of the dialout group or the group does not exist at all. I still prefer Linux, but no everything works "out of the box". This (requiring elevated privileges) is a very niche thing, though (raw access to the serial port).
- yazantapuz 4y ago
  But the students with Windows laptops did not have these kind of problems. Although I can think of a lot of issues, in this "very niche thing" Windows worked "out of the box" and Linux didn't.
  - lelanthran 4y ago
    > But the students with Windows laptops did not have these kind of problems. Although I can think of a lot of issues, in this "very niche thing" Windows worked "out of the box" and Linux didn't. Yes, for this very niche thing Windows works out the box. For other not so niche things, Linux works out the box. For the not so niche thing of "set up a LAMP stack" and similar, Windows is pretty poor at it, compared to using apt-get. Also, for this very niche thing, I'm pretty certain that the arduino IDE I installed from the repository worked out the box for serial port access. I'm guessing that you pretended the Linux boxes were Windows, and installed on Linux by downloading it off the arduino distribution site?
    - yazantapuz 4y ago
      > I'm guessing that you pretended the Linux boxes were Windows, and installed on Linux by downloading it off the arduino distribution site? Yes, that was a mistake. But it was not as simple as saying "install from apt-get" because some where using Arch-based distros (pacman), a few were using Fedora (yum) and others Ubuntu. Even so, not always that the user is added to the right group. Also, we wanted to show the new 2.0 IDE.

CoolCold 4y ago

I hardly remember doing any kind of special fighting or annoying stuff. What's your pain points here? Had some issues after Win10->Win11 beta Insider build updates, but that's other story.

epolanski 4y ago

I don't really notice the annoying stuff. Win + WSL gives you both Linux and Windows tools at your disposal.