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Not at all, just that the "men are victims of violence too" whiney bullshit is not a useful conversation when talking about violence toward women by men. It's s

Not at all, just that the "men are victims of violence too" whiney bullshit is not a useful conversation when talking about violence toward women by men. It's stupid and it takes away from the conversation and the only correlation between the two is the gender of the perpetrator. Women are targets because they're women. Men aren't targeted because of a shared immutable trait. They may have other things about them that someone doesn't like and some of those things may be immutable but the "men hurt men too" line is stupid, takes away from the important conversation we're not having enough and is basically a whataboutism. The people complaining about violence against men only seem to show up in force when talking about violence against women.

notacoward 4y ago
It's "all lives matter" all over again. Yes, all lives do matter, and yes, men are victims of violence too, but neither of those facts was ever in dispute. The pattern of when and how they're brought up, as counterpoints to facts about violence that did need to be reiterated, suggests derailment rather than sincere interest.
fluoridation 4y ago
>Not at all, just that the "men are victims of violence too" whiney bullshit is not a useful conversation when talking about violence toward women by men. Is it? I don't know. Surely it depends on the particular conversation. If the topic of the conversation is "since women are victims of violence from men, men who are accused of committing violence against women should be guilty until proven innocent", then I don't think it's irrelevant that men also suffer violence.