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The solution is recognizing that the 2a side is belligerent regarding the consequences of easy access to cheap weapons. Once we accept that all we need to do st

The solution is recognizing that the 2a side is belligerent regarding the consequences of easy access to cheap weapons. Once we accept that all we need to do stateside is adopt sensible legislation that demonstrably works in countries without a belligerent group incapable of intelligent debate. I’m not going to engage with you on a slippery slope argument. Your solution is naive, unsupported by research, reasonably hypothesized by people far more intelligent and accomplished than either of us, to be a failure on arrival, and conveniently requires no requires no acceptance of responsibility in the current horrific state of affairs nor does it requires a change in mind on anything. More guns = more suicides and accidents. You should already know this. the nra/federalist society, and similar organizations have been using their lackey’s to prevent progress on gun control for decades. Mitch McConnell has publicly taken pride in his ability to prevent anything from getting done regarding anything. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/27/texas-shooting-nra-stifles-gun-regulations https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/27/texas-shooti...

tekknik 4y ago
> The solution is recognizing that the 2a side is belligerent regarding the consequences of easy access to cheap weapons So now only wealthy people can exercise a right? > Once we accept that all we need to do stateside is adopt sensible legislation that demonstrably works in countries without a belligerent group incapable of intelligent debate. Again, what legislation. I want specific laws you think will work. > I’m not going to engage with you on a slippery slope argument. It honestly sounds like you have no argument, just that you don't like guns and want them gone. > More guns = more suicides and accidents. You should already know this. I don't count suicides as deaths. This is used by the pro gun control groups to artificially inflate the numbers. Suicidal people will use other means if you take the guns away. And yes of course, the increased use of any object results in increased accidents with those objects. That's why some parents teach their kids gun safety early (I was handed a shotgun at age 8) and we develop proper procedures for handling weapons (Such as always visual and physically ensure the chamber is clear even if you "know" it's unloaded). > the nra/federalist society, and similar organizations have been using their lackey’s to prevent progress on gun control for decades. Mitch McConnell has publicly taken pride in his ability to prevent anything from getting done regarding anything. Do you think that perhaps the NRA is just representing the people that belong to its organization? Or said another way, if the NRA had nobody to represent would they exist? While it may be hard for you to understand my position and the position of others like me, it's not the NRA fighting. It's me, other's like me. And we certainly aren't giving up anytime soon.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
  You’ve made liberal use of fallacious argument, taken my arguments exceptionally uncharitably, and have conveniently ignored many other of my arguments while projecting your own shortcomings onto me. You should read the site guidelines. At this point it is clear that you are arguing in bad faith and it is not worth the effort of even reading your replies as you have made it abundantly clear that you have no interest in engaging in a rational discussion. Instead it is obvious that your goal is to spread to your widely debunked talking points; truth, evidence, merits, respect be dammed.
  - tekknik 4y ago
    What have I ignored and what have I taken uncharitably? I’m asking for specific laws that you would enact that would help the situation. You have not provided any and you’re now attempting to derail this conversation. Every scenario you’ve presented Ive disproven. Remember this was started when it was said that food truck operators can become felons. Further what site guidelines have I violated? I want specific laws you’d enact to resolve the issues as you see them. Can you provide them or not?

tekknik 4y ago

> The solution is recognizing that the 2a side is belligerent regarding the consequences of easy access to cheap weapons So now only wealthy people can exercise a right? > Once we accept that all we need to do stateside is adopt sensible legislation that demonstrably works in countries without a belligerent group incapable of intelligent debate. Again, what legislation. I want specific laws you think will work. > I’m not going to engage with you on a slippery slope argument. It honestly sounds like you have no argument, just that you don't like guns and want them gone. > More guns = more suicides and accidents. You should already know this. I don't count suicides as deaths. This is used by the pro gun control groups to artificially inflate the numbers. Suicidal people will use other means if you take the guns away. And yes of course, the increased use of any object results in increased accidents with those objects. That's why some parents teach their kids gun safety early (I was handed a shotgun at age 8) and we develop proper procedures for handling weapons (Such as always visual and physically ensure the chamber is clear even if you "know" it's unloaded). > the nra/federalist society, and similar organizations have been using their lackey’s to prevent progress on gun control for decades. Mitch McConnell has publicly taken pride in his ability to prevent anything from getting done regarding anything. Do you think that perhaps the NRA is just representing the people that belong to its organization? Or said another way, if the NRA had nobody to represent would they exist? While it may be hard for you to understand my position and the position of others like me, it's not the NRA fighting. It's me, other's like me. And we certainly aren't giving up anytime soon.

Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
You’ve made liberal use of fallacious argument, taken my arguments exceptionally uncharitably, and have conveniently ignored many other of my arguments while projecting your own shortcomings onto me. You should read the site guidelines. At this point it is clear that you are arguing in bad faith and it is not worth the effort of even reading your replies as you have made it abundantly clear that you have no interest in engaging in a rational discussion. Instead it is obvious that your goal is to spread to your widely debunked talking points; truth, evidence, merits, respect be dammed.
- tekknik 4y ago
  What have I ignored and what have I taken uncharitably? I’m asking for specific laws that you would enact that would help the situation. You have not provided any and you’re now attempting to derail this conversation. Every scenario you’ve presented Ive disproven. Remember this was started when it was said that food truck operators can become felons. Further what site guidelines have I violated? I want specific laws you’d enact to resolve the issues as you see them. Can you provide them or not?