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I could definitely be wrong but my go-to assumption when the source originates from Tiktok is to assume it's fake or staged.

mhh__ 4y ago
- mardifoufs 4y ago
  >least intelligent Based on what?
  - uni_rule 4y ago
    Age, probably. Young kids aren't that smart.
    - mhh__ 4y ago
      A lot of what I am complaining about is actually people older than me peddling "advise" - how to become a data analyst (no understanding of data required!). It just feels like Facebook-tier people given the content equivalent of a machine gun.
      - noduerme 4y ago
        Having never been on TikTok and only seeing embeds of videos from it, this checks out.
      - bhaney 4y ago
        > how to become a data analyst (no understanding of data required!) That sounds plenty plausible to me.
  - metadat 4y ago
    And compared to what?
  - mhh__ 4y ago
    Maybe Instagram is worse but TikTok is full of the most dumb shit I can imagine, either that or people plugging their Instagram. There are smart people on it but they don't define the culture. The immediacy of the format is amazing but the content is awful.
    - trasz 4y ago
      TikTok is famous for adjusting the content to the user, so if it’s showing you dumb shit, then, well…
      - mhh__ 4y ago
        It tries to show me people talking about maths and finance and programming but they're all either infantilising themselves for some reason or not very good at it. And anyway I have a fair amount of karma here so what does that say about hackernews if your implication is correct...
        echelon 4y ago
        > I have a fair amount of karma here so what does that say about hackernews That you (in)frequently post spicy hot takes.
        mhh__ 4y ago
        I've mellowed a lot in my old age
nyokodo 4y ago
> my go-to assumption when the source originates from Tiktok is to assume it's fake or staged. Wise, although wiser to make that assumption for most sources. Until this starts being reported independently by more reliable sources then I assume it’s fake.
aerovistae 4y ago
This is on multiple social media sites - did you read the article?
- jsemrau 4y ago
  A new social media marketing strategy?
  - userbinator 4y ago
    Marketing? "Come fly our planes and experience the PA ghost?" I feel like that would only target a very small percentage of potential customers.
    - jsemrau 4y ago
      It's getting shared on Social Media. People talk about it and likely never experience it. It's the same principle with the "creepy clowns" a while back. https://mediashower.com/blog/how-clowns-did-the-heavy-lifting-for-the-marketing-of-it/ https://mediashower.com/blog/how-clowns-did-the-heavy-liftin...
culi 4y ago
Where did it say the source was from tiktok? They cited several separate Tweets about this same issue across multiple flights. They have recordings too
- judge2020 4y ago
  The recordings have the TikTok watermark.
LouisSayers 4y ago
I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was the case - kind of like an internet flash mob all in on the joke, waiting for reputable news sources to pick it up and show their lack of journalistic integrity.
- judge2020 4y ago
  > show their lack of journalistic integrity. I mean, the only thing I could see them doing is asking the flight attendants or AA, but both of those are likely hard to get an actual answers for (AA would most likely say 'we are investigating' and would never follow-up). If something is on social media and there are enough corroborating accounts, it's probably enough to write a news article about.
  - maxbond 4y ago
    The article says AA said it was an issue with an amplifier, but goes on to doubt that explanation.
Thorrez 4y ago
In this article the author claims to have talked to American Airlines about it: >American Airlines inspected the Boeing 737-800 as well as the P.A. system itself after these reports. They tell me that maintenance “determined the sounds were caused by an issue with the PA amplifier. There was no external access to the system.” https://viewfromthewing.com/no-theres-no-ghost-in-the-machine-on-board-american-airlines-aircraft/ https://viewfromthewing.com/no-theres-no-ghost-in-the-machin...
- tomcam 4y ago
  > “determined the sounds were caused by an issue with the PA amplifier. There was no external access to the system.” Hard to agree. Those sounds are almost certainly a human voice, presumably digitized. Unless the issue with the PA amp is that someone connected a sample player to it. Former pro audio engineer here.
  - 6stringmerc 4y ago
    Yeah that is not an electrical hiccup in the audio - that’s a human. I am guessing Slavic by the inflection cadence. Also, Cozy Bear and all that. Longtime guitarist, producer, film fanatic here and this is really going to be interesting. It does remind me of last Halloween where I had my jumpsuit and hockey mask to be Jason Voorhies and I got a small mp3 player and looped an hour of “ki-ki-ma-ma-ma” lifted from YouTube and played thru a little amp on my porch. Play scarecrow and only move to scare the big kids or their parents haha.
  - Thorrez 4y ago
    I completely agree with you.

mhh__ 4y ago

mardifoufs 4y ago
>least intelligent Based on what?
- uni_rule 4y ago
  Age, probably. Young kids aren't that smart.
  - mhh__ 4y ago
    A lot of what I am complaining about is actually people older than me peddling "advise" - how to become a data analyst (no understanding of data required!). It just feels like Facebook-tier people given the content equivalent of a machine gun.
    - noduerme 4y ago
      Having never been on TikTok and only seeing embeds of videos from it, this checks out.
    - bhaney 4y ago
      > how to become a data analyst (no understanding of data required!) That sounds plenty plausible to me.
- metadat 4y ago
  And compared to what?
- mhh__ 4y ago
  Maybe Instagram is worse but TikTok is full of the most dumb shit I can imagine, either that or people plugging their Instagram. There are smart people on it but they don't define the culture. The immediacy of the format is amazing but the content is awful.
  - trasz 4y ago
    TikTok is famous for adjusting the content to the user, so if it’s showing you dumb shit, then, well…
    - mhh__ 4y ago
      It tries to show me people talking about maths and finance and programming but they're all either infantilising themselves for some reason or not very good at it. And anyway I have a fair amount of karma here so what does that say about hackernews if your implication is correct...
      - echelon 4y ago
        > I have a fair amount of karma here so what does that say about hackernews That you (in)frequently post spicy hot takes.
        mhh__ 4y ago
        I've mellowed a lot in my old age

nyokodo 4y ago

> my go-to assumption when the source originates from Tiktok is to assume it's fake or staged. Wise, although wiser to make that assumption for most sources. Until this starts being reported independently by more reliable sources then I assume it’s fake.

aerovistae 4y ago

This is on multiple social media sites - did you read the article?

jsemrau 4y ago
A new social media marketing strategy?
- userbinator 4y ago
  Marketing? "Come fly our planes and experience the PA ghost?" I feel like that would only target a very small percentage of potential customers.
  - jsemrau 4y ago
    It's getting shared on Social Media. People talk about it and likely never experience it. It's the same principle with the "creepy clowns" a while back. https://mediashower.com/blog/how-clowns-did-the-heavy-lifting-for-the-marketing-of-it/ https://mediashower.com/blog/how-clowns-did-the-heavy-liftin...

culi 4y ago

Where did it say the source was from tiktok? They cited several separate Tweets about this same issue across multiple flights. They have recordings too

judge2020 4y ago
The recordings have the TikTok watermark.

LouisSayers 4y ago

I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was the case - kind of like an internet flash mob all in on the joke, waiting for reputable news sources to pick it up and show their lack of journalistic integrity.

judge2020 4y ago
> show their lack of journalistic integrity. I mean, the only thing I could see them doing is asking the flight attendants or AA, but both of those are likely hard to get an actual answers for (AA would most likely say 'we are investigating' and would never follow-up). If something is on social media and there are enough corroborating accounts, it's probably enough to write a news article about.
- maxbond 4y ago
  The article says AA said it was an issue with an amplifier, but goes on to doubt that explanation.

Thorrez 4y ago

In this article the author claims to have talked to American Airlines about it: >American Airlines inspected the Boeing 737-800 as well as the P.A. system itself after these reports. They tell me that maintenance “determined the sounds were caused by an issue with the PA amplifier. There was no external access to the system.” https://viewfromthewing.com/no-theres-no-ghost-in-the-machine-on-board-american-airlines-aircraft/ https://viewfromthewing.com/no-theres-no-ghost-in-the-machin...

tomcam 4y ago
> “determined the sounds were caused by an issue with the PA amplifier. There was no external access to the system.” Hard to agree. Those sounds are almost certainly a human voice, presumably digitized. Unless the issue with the PA amp is that someone connected a sample player to it. Former pro audio engineer here.
- 6stringmerc 4y ago
  Yeah that is not an electrical hiccup in the audio - that’s a human. I am guessing Slavic by the inflection cadence. Also, Cozy Bear and all that. Longtime guitarist, producer, film fanatic here and this is really going to be interesting. It does remind me of last Halloween where I had my jumpsuit and hockey mask to be Jason Voorhies and I got a small mp3 player and looped an hour of “ki-ki-ma-ma-ma” lifted from YouTube and played thru a little amp on my porch. Play scarecrow and only move to scare the big kids or their parents haha.
- Thorrez 4y ago
  I completely agree with you.