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> The win11 / Edge bullshit finally pushed me to migrate my last win machine to linux. I used to love Windows, nowadays it just makes me bitter. Do you know typ

> The win11 / Edge bullshit finally pushed me to migrate my last win machine to linux. I used to love Windows, nowadays it just makes me bitter. Do you know typing "torrent" in the start menu doesn't find "qbittorrent"? In 2022. It sums it all. Heh, try KDE's KRunner. I type 'kt' and it matches ktorrent. But if I type 'kto' it switches to matching "Desktop 8". 'ktor' once again matches ktorrent.

thfuran 4y ago
That sounds about like m experience trying to open intellij in windows.
LtWorf 4y ago
Sounds like you want trabucco! https://github.com/ltworf/trabucco https://github.com/ltworf/trabucco
bryanlarsen 4y ago
That's a common autocomplete behaviour. It's trying to be helpful. If you actually wanted ktorrent, you probably would have selected ktorrent on 'kt'. By typing another letter you're hinting you might want something other than ktorrent. Not sure if I agree with the behaviour, but I understand it.
- deleted 4y ago
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- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  I guess I get it, but it doesn't work well for me. By the time I recognize the ktorrent icon and hit enter, my fingers have already typed the next letter. With this system I have to deliberately pause pressing enter.
- wolpoli 4y ago
  That is a good explanation. The behavior is reasonable if we all type one character at a time, wait for the list of suggestions to update and stabilize, and review the list before typing the next character. Unfortunately, some of us are impatient and just type a bunch of characters at once. But I understand the type of audience the designers are going after.
- Tyr42 4y ago
  Thanks, I just thought it was broken. I hate this behaviour, as I'm usually looking as my fingers type the last bit, and if I keep adding matching letters, please don't change?
  - dpkirchner 4y ago
    It's definitely broken, but apparently by design. It's a deliberbug.
    - sshine 4y ago
      Microsoft is full of those. When you enter your birthday during Windows installation (yes, you have to have a Microsoft network account to log in to your own computer, and you have to supply a birthday), the button for confirming the date is a small, grey checkmark hiding below the date picker. Clicking the big, blue “Continue” button in the lower corner will discard your date choice (since it wasn’t picked) and then fail form validation because you didn’t pick a date. There is a certain cubicle masochism associated with this kind of system. I’m convinced that computers did not get easier to use since all of them had command prompts. But you know, it’s got windows!
      - tinus_hn 4y ago
        You don’t have to use a Microsoft account if you’re installing Windows 10 and it doesn’t have an internet connection when you run the wizard.
        puzzledobserver 4y ago
        To install Windows 11 without a Microsoft account involves bringing up a command prompt in the middle of the installation process and typing some magic incantations. It's clearly not what Microsoft wants users to be doing.
        rhdunn 4y ago
        I got Windows 11 Pro on my new machine for the sole purpose of avoiding that BS (and have it running without an account), but now you can't even do that on new installs without those workarounds. It's a dark pattern akin to Amazon trying to get you to use Amazon Prime when purchasing something on Amazon.
- registeredcorn 4y ago
  Here's one I'm quickly finding tedious in Fedora: "Chery" I'm misspelling CherryTree. Instead of getting note taking software, VLC starts playing "11 - Pulmonary Archery (Explicit).flac" This is annoying not just because it's not what I wanted, but also because I already have music playing, music which is now abruptly cut off.
  - bmicraft 4y ago
    You can turn individual krunner plugins off, like "Recent files".
ht85 4y ago
Thank you, sorry my message was misleading, I was talking about the windows start menu. KDE / Gnome / Mate work as expected afaik!

thfuran 4y ago

That sounds about like m experience trying to open intellij in windows.

LtWorf 4y ago

Sounds like you want trabucco! https://github.com/ltworf/trabucco https://github.com/ltworf/trabucco

bryanlarsen 4y ago

That's a common autocomplete behaviour. It's trying to be helpful. If you actually wanted ktorrent, you probably would have selected ktorrent on 'kt'. By typing another letter you're hinting you might want something other than ktorrent. Not sure if I agree with the behaviour, but I understand it.

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MichaelCollins 4y ago
I guess I get it, but it doesn't work well for me. By the time I recognize the ktorrent icon and hit enter, my fingers have already typed the next letter. With this system I have to deliberately pause pressing enter.
wolpoli 4y ago
That is a good explanation. The behavior is reasonable if we all type one character at a time, wait for the list of suggestions to update and stabilize, and review the list before typing the next character. Unfortunately, some of us are impatient and just type a bunch of characters at once. But I understand the type of audience the designers are going after.
Tyr42 4y ago
Thanks, I just thought it was broken. I hate this behaviour, as I'm usually looking as my fingers type the last bit, and if I keep adding matching letters, please don't change?
- dpkirchner 4y ago
  It's definitely broken, but apparently by design. It's a deliberbug.
  - sshine 4y ago
    Microsoft is full of those. When you enter your birthday during Windows installation (yes, you have to have a Microsoft network account to log in to your own computer, and you have to supply a birthday), the button for confirming the date is a small, grey checkmark hiding below the date picker. Clicking the big, blue “Continue” button in the lower corner will discard your date choice (since it wasn’t picked) and then fail form validation because you didn’t pick a date. There is a certain cubicle masochism associated with this kind of system. I’m convinced that computers did not get easier to use since all of them had command prompts. But you know, it’s got windows!
    - tinus_hn 4y ago
      You don’t have to use a Microsoft account if you’re installing Windows 10 and it doesn’t have an internet connection when you run the wizard.
      - puzzledobserver 4y ago
        To install Windows 11 without a Microsoft account involves bringing up a command prompt in the middle of the installation process and typing some magic incantations. It's clearly not what Microsoft wants users to be doing.
        rhdunn 4y ago
        I got Windows 11 Pro on my new machine for the sole purpose of avoiding that BS (and have it running without an account), but now you can't even do that on new installs without those workarounds. It's a dark pattern akin to Amazon trying to get you to use Amazon Prime when purchasing something on Amazon.
registeredcorn 4y ago
Here's one I'm quickly finding tedious in Fedora: "Chery" I'm misspelling CherryTree. Instead of getting note taking software, VLC starts playing "11 - Pulmonary Archery (Explicit).flac" This is annoying not just because it's not what I wanted, but also because I already have music playing, music which is now abruptly cut off.
- bmicraft 4y ago
  You can turn individual krunner plugins off, like "Recent files".

ht85 4y ago

Thank you, sorry my message was misleading, I was talking about the windows start menu. KDE / Gnome / Mate work as expected afaik!