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I'm not sure I'd call it skirting around the issue. More operating from inside our sphere of influence. > The shift to being able to "see" arbitrary women as t
by r3trohack3r 4y ago
I'm not sure I'd call it skirting around the issue. More operating from inside our sphere of influence.
> The shift to being able to "see" arbitrary women as they'd look in certain positions or level of undress will also change how young men perceive real women in harmful ways in a society where women already have to deal with constant objectification.
There is a storyline in a children's movie about a young girl making sexually suggestive sketches of a boy in her notebook (Turning Red). The mom discovers it and confronts the boy thinking he's taken advantage of her daughter. That's going to evolve into using AI to do the same. It's not just a trope, those problems exist already; this is just going to make these cases more common. And you're nailing it with how it's going to change perceptions. These dream images are going to be created to match the fantasies of the person generating the image. Those images aren't the actual bodies of the person being undressed - it's just a fantasy created by the artist optimized to their own preferences.
> Firstly it's about things like lighting, skin tone, background details etc that set the scene for us on the unconscious level and which inevitably leaves the current generation of fakes somewhere in the uncanny valley. Secondly the fact that we know they're fake didn't impact the initial associations our brain will create upon seeing them.
Expert fakes exist for celebrities that pass uncanny valley without the use of AI. There are sites dedicated to cataloging celebrity images and documenting if they are fake or not. Same with request threads and WYWD threads - the stuff on message boards can be pretty convincing, enough to get to those initial associations. I'm not sure why you think otherwise. The dark corners of the internet are full of this content.
This cat is out of the bag and has been for some time. The frequency is only going to increase as the bar for generating these images lowers. Photoshoppers running request threads are the bottleneck right now; soon those threads are going to be replaced with generators that spit out 100s of candidate images.
We don't really have control over how others use our likeness beyond the tools the law extends to us but, even then, it only addresses the problem after it happens and doesn't stop someone from doing it in the first place. I don't see us stopping it. If we can't stop it, we either let it happen to us or we figure out how to remove its power over us at an individual level (and help others do the same).
I'd like to turn this around. You're bringing up a lot of problems without solutions. Other than shifting our view of these images on a person-to-person basis, how do you see us stopping it?