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Tell HN: Longest way I've seen of writing “yes”
https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows-365/faq
Can Microsoft access my data since it's hosted with them?
"We hold a very high standard for privacy and believe that privacy is a fundamental human right, which serves as the foundation for how we address privacy in our products. Another core principle we hold is that our customers are in control of their data. This isn’t simply something we say in our corporate privacy statement. It’s something all our teams live by. In our agreements, Microsoft states that we can do only two things with customer content: provide services requested by the customer and comply with legal obligations. No other access or use of a customer’s content is permitted. Microsoft uses diagnostic data to keep Windows 365 (and Microsoft 365) secure and up to date; detect, diagnose, and fix problems; and make product improvements. However, this diagnostic data doesn’t include the user's name or email address or the content of their apps and files."
- smoldesu 4y agoWould you prefer they lie to you? Not even Apple is dumb enough to claim they don't have access to your iCloud data.
- dcminter 4y agoWhile their answer is true, it would have been more honest to start "Yes. However..." instead of trying to camouflage it.
- smoldesu 4y agoIt's also honest to start with "We hold a very high standard for privacy". Maybe they don't care about it very much, but Microsoft is held to the same data privacy standards as every other company in their vein. They comply with the same ISO standards and go through the same audits - they are "secure" in the baseline modern definition. Mostly though, I don't understand why Hacker News of all places is angry about this. How can you be surprised when people have access to the data you give them?
- dcminter 4y agoI'm not remotely surprised, and their response is par for the course in all megacorps that have forgotten how to give a straight answer to an uncomfortable question, but it's still not honest. Just true.
- gus_massa 4y agoIt will be misquoted to get clickbait articles as > Yes and skip all the however part. Moreover they don't have a single "yes" in that whole paragraph that can be isolated an used against them. Somewhat related: In some states, the governor can veto a single word of a sentence of a bill, even changing the meaning of it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-item_veto_in_the_United_States#Wisconsin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-item_veto_in_the_United_S...
- kleer001 4y agoYea, it's 100% cya. Is that really surprising?
- scombridae 4y agoI agree with the other poster. Far better to leave it out of the faq. Those who care about privacy don't have adjust their summer reading list. Those who don't care, don't care.