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Re-Entering the Vampire Castle

29 points by angledense 4y ago

hrnnnnnn 4y ago
Oh, I thought this was going to be a response to Mark Fisher's 2013 essay "Exiting The Vampire Castle", which was not actually about vampires. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/exiting-vampire-castle/ https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/exiting-vam...
- A_D_E_P_T 4y ago
  Same here. Fisher's essay stuck with me, and now it comes to mind whenever I see the words "Vampire Castle." It's also quite remarkable that it was written in 2013, because the problems Fisher described in the essay didn't really kick into overdrive until later in the decade.
  - hrnnnnnn 4y ago
    I only read it a few weeks ago and I couldn't believe it was nearly ten years old.
- Joeboy 4y ago
  It's briefly mentioned near the end.
wheybags 4y ago
> The English novelist’s tale Nope. Irish.
fitba72 4y ago
Dracula's castle is actually in Scotland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Slains_Castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Slains_Castle
- coldtea 4y ago
  Well, the ones from the Hammer films perhaps -- or as it says in the links "[the above] castle provided a visual palette for Bram Stoker when he started writing the book in Cruden Bay". Historical Dracula (Vlad III) lived in Romania tho
nkurz 4y ago
> The title of the present essay is of course a riff on the late Mark Fisher’s notable 2013 cri-de-coeur, “Exiting the Vampire Castle,” but other than that the two pieces of writing have nothing in common. I feel tricked, particularly since this wasn't mentioned until Part 5. If you were to choose, I'd recommend the original over "the present essay": https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/exiting-vampire-castle/ https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/exiting-vam....
Biologist123 4y ago
Kind of uncool to use the w-word. Partly because it’s offensive and partly because it’s really outdated, Alf Garnet-style language. Made me wonder if the author understood its connotation.
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- HunterWare 4y ago
  I have to ask: w-word? I even searched the article and couldn't figure out what you are referring to.
  - justintrtle 4y ago
    Wog
    - HunterWare 4y ago
      Ah! thanks, and tough to disagree.
- OrangeMonkey 4y ago
  I'm sorry but what are you talking about?
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chickenimprint 4y ago
"Dracula and his brother have abandoned their faith and have promised and sworn to darken the Christian faith.” Is a terrible translation of "Vnd der dracole vnd sein brueder haben abgetreten von yrem glauben vnd haben verhaissen vnd geschworen den cristlichen gelauben zu beschirmen." "Beschirmen" meant the same thing in early new high german as it does today: to protect. https://www.fwb-online.de/lemma/beschirmen.s.3v?q=Beschirmen&page=1 https://www.fwb-online.de/lemma/beschirmen.s.3v?q=Beschirmen... Rather than to "darken" the Christan faith, they are said to have sworn to protect it.

29 points by angledense 4y ago

Oh, I thought this was going to be a response to Mark Fisher's 2013 essay "Exiting The Vampire Castle", which was not actually about vampires. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/exiting-vampire-castle/ https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/exiting-vam...

A_D_E_P_T 4y ago
Same here. Fisher's essay stuck with me, and now it comes to mind whenever I see the words "Vampire Castle." It's also quite remarkable that it was written in 2013, because the problems Fisher described in the essay didn't really kick into overdrive until later in the decade.
- hrnnnnnn 4y ago
  I only read it a few weeks ago and I couldn't believe it was nearly ten years old.
Joeboy 4y ago
It's briefly mentioned near the end.

wheybags 4y ago

> The English novelist’s tale Nope. Irish.

fitba72 4y ago

Dracula's castle is actually in Scotland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Slains_Castle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Slains_Castle

coldtea 4y ago
Well, the ones from the Hammer films perhaps -- or as it says in the links "[the above] castle provided a visual palette for Bram Stoker when he started writing the book in Cruden Bay". Historical Dracula (Vlad III) lived in Romania tho

nkurz 4y ago

> The title of the present essay is of course a riff on the late Mark Fisher’s notable 2013 cri-de-coeur, “Exiting the Vampire Castle,” but other than that the two pieces of writing have nothing in common. I feel tricked, particularly since this wasn't mentioned until Part 5. If you were to choose, I'd recommend the original over "the present essay": https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/exiting-vampire-castle/ https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/exiting-vam....

Biologist123 4y ago

Kind of uncool to use the w-word. Partly because it’s offensive and partly because it’s really outdated, Alf Garnet-style language. Made me wonder if the author understood its connotation.

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HunterWare 4y ago
I have to ask: w-word? I even searched the article and couldn't figure out what you are referring to.
- justintrtle 4y ago
  Wog
  - HunterWare 4y ago
    Ah! thanks, and tough to disagree.
OrangeMonkey 4y ago
I'm sorry but what are you talking about?
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chickenimprint 4y ago

"Dracula and his brother have abandoned their faith and have promised and sworn to darken the Christian faith.” Is a terrible translation of "Vnd der dracole vnd sein brueder haben abgetreten von yrem glauben vnd haben verhaissen vnd geschworen den cristlichen gelauben zu beschirmen." "Beschirmen" meant the same thing in early new high german as it does today: to protect. https://www.fwb-online.de/lemma/beschirmen.s.3v?q=Beschirmen&page=1 https://www.fwb-online.de/lemma/beschirmen.s.3v?q=Beschirmen... Rather than to "darken" the Christan faith, they are said to have sworn to protect it.