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I just don't understand why people don't say "I don't like it" rather than "This show is bad". It's not that difficult to have a strong opinion and also leave r

I just don't understand why people don't say "I don't like it" rather than "This show is bad". It's not that difficult to have a strong opinion and also leave room for others.

droopyEyelids 4y ago
The other side of this coin is why do people need to feel a show is good just because they like it? It's ok to like trashy media.
- miiiiiike 4y ago
  Exactly. --A guy who watched Suits
- akvadrako 4y ago
  Saying "it's bad" is exactly the same as saying "I don't like it". At least when talking about art, there is no objective measure.
  - tunesmith 4y ago
    > Saying "it's bad" is exactly the same as saying "I don't like it". No it's not. (meta... meta... meta...)
thrown1212 4y ago
Because if you don’t like it, you’re the ass. But, if it’s bad, they’re the ass. Few people bother to climb the steep wall of cognitive dissonance required to embrace the fact that the source of their problem might be intrinsic. Much easier to paint your displeasure in the palette of extrinsic and objective failures. You’re still an ass, but at least you don’t have to think of yourself as one.
- swiley-gin 4y ago
  idk, I love being an ass and disliking things.
8note 4y ago
It's a taught way to communicate. That it's you saying it implies that it's your opinion. There's plenty of room to say "it's good" or "it's good except these parts" "I don't like it" leaves little room for disagreement. I can't disagree that you don't like it
- tunesmith 4y ago
  That's the point. Why do you need to disagree that they don't like it? They can expand, and say "I don't like it, for these reasons". Then if you read it, maybe you feel moved to engage and share that you like this or that aspect. Or maybe you like something the other person didn't like. And then you can compare viewpoints. And maybe learn something about each other. Before long, you've got an actual conversation going!
prox 4y ago
I don’t understand this line of thinking, it’s kind of implied that if he says “this show is bad” , that it is like, his opinion man.
miiiiiike 4y ago
Because then it's a concrete, immutable, fact and anyone who disagrees is flawed. The reciprocal of this in comedy is claphter. When people clap or laugh because they hear something they agree with, whether it's funny or not. Usually not. People say things like "It's/They're not funny" if they don't agree with the person, sentiment, message a lot now.. Which, doesn't work. My favorite thing to do is give comedians, any comedian, at least 5 minutes after the end of their first joke to see if they can make me laugh. There are comics out there who really rubbed me the wrong way at first but had me laughing before time ran out. Can't make me laugh in 5 minutes, your special is over. If I'm giggling before then I'm watching the whole hour, don't care who you are. I'm not really digging Rings of Power but She-Hulk is the current "show that is bad™" that I really like. I was a huge Marvel kid but I've been sick of the MCU since about Iron Man 3. [0] She-Hulk gets the comedy structure right (the show runner wrote for a bunch of Adult Swim shows and Silicon Valley) and doesn't feel like it was written exclusively for ten-year-olds. Feels like they'll get their footing by season 2. I've been reading a lot of articles saying things like "the men are unrealistic in She-Hulk." But, I've heard guys say some of the lines from She-Hulk verbatim. The dialog can be an exaggeration.. But it's not that inaccurate. I'm guessing parts of the scripts were transcribed more than written. The best part about She-Hulk is that you have people who are good at what they do but are still pathetic playing off pathetic people who aren't good at what they do. It's funny. [0]: And yet, I still watch every single one of them. WHY? I don't know, hope? Hawkweye was pretty good. And, that's from a guy who would say "Shut up Hawkeye" to his girlfriend every time Jeremy Renner opened his mouth.
- tunesmith 4y ago
  I thought Ms. Marvel was really good, and compared especially well to Moon Knight, at least in terms of how they represented their respective cultural influences. It's pretty rare that I'll watch a show like a Marvel show and actually learn some stuff that I didn't even know I didn't know (Pakistani history, the partition, etc). With Moon Knight it felt like anti-learning, like I felt like if I wasn't careful it would make me more ignorant.
  - mcv 4y ago

I just don't understand why people don't say "I don't like it" rather than "This show is bad". It's not that difficult to have a strong opinion and also leave room for others.

droopyEyelids 4y ago

The other side of this coin is why do people need to feel a show is good just because they like it? It's ok to like trashy media.

miiiiiike 4y ago
Exactly. --A guy who watched Suits
akvadrako 4y ago
Saying "it's bad" is exactly the same as saying "I don't like it". At least when talking about art, there is no objective measure.
- tunesmith 4y ago
  > Saying "it's bad" is exactly the same as saying "I don't like it". No it's not. (meta... meta... meta...)

thrown1212 4y ago

Because if you don’t like it, you’re the ass. But, if it’s bad, they’re the ass. Few people bother to climb the steep wall of cognitive dissonance required to embrace the fact that the source of their problem might be intrinsic. Much easier to paint your displeasure in the palette of extrinsic and objective failures. You’re still an ass, but at least you don’t have to think of yourself as one.

swiley-gin 4y ago
idk, I love being an ass and disliking things.

8note 4y ago

It's a taught way to communicate. That it's you saying it implies that it's your opinion. There's plenty of room to say "it's good" or "it's good except these parts" "I don't like it" leaves little room for disagreement. I can't disagree that you don't like it

tunesmith 4y ago
That's the point. Why do you need to disagree that they don't like it? They can expand, and say "I don't like it, for these reasons". Then if you read it, maybe you feel moved to engage and share that you like this or that aspect. Or maybe you like something the other person didn't like. And then you can compare viewpoints. And maybe learn something about each other. Before long, you've got an actual conversation going!

prox 4y ago

I don’t understand this line of thinking, it’s kind of implied that if he says “this show is bad” , that it is like, his opinion man.

miiiiiike 4y ago

Because then it's a concrete, immutable, fact and anyone who disagrees is flawed. The reciprocal of this in comedy is claphter. When people clap or laugh because they hear something they agree with, whether it's funny or not. Usually not. People say things like "It's/They're not funny" if they don't agree with the person, sentiment, message a lot now.. Which, doesn't work. My favorite thing to do is give comedians, any comedian, at least 5 minutes after the end of their first joke to see if they can make me laugh. There are comics out there who really rubbed me the wrong way at first but had me laughing before time ran out. Can't make me laugh in 5 minutes, your special is over. If I'm giggling before then I'm watching the whole hour, don't care who you are. I'm not really digging Rings of Power but She-Hulk is the current "show that is bad™" that I really like. I was a huge Marvel kid but I've been sick of the MCU since about Iron Man 3. [0] She-Hulk gets the comedy structure right (the show runner wrote for a bunch of Adult Swim shows and Silicon Valley) and doesn't feel like it was written exclusively for ten-year-olds. Feels like they'll get their footing by season 2. I've been reading a lot of articles saying things like "the men are unrealistic in She-Hulk." But, I've heard guys say some of the lines from She-Hulk verbatim. The dialog can be an exaggeration.. But it's not that inaccurate. I'm guessing parts of the scripts were transcribed more than written. The best part about She-Hulk is that you have people who are good at what they do but are still pathetic playing off pathetic people who aren't good at what they do. It's funny. [0]: And yet, I still watch every single one of them. WHY? I don't know, hope? Hawkweye was pretty good. And, that's from a guy who would say "Shut up Hawkeye" to his girlfriend every time Jeremy Renner opened his mouth.

tunesmith 4y ago
I thought Ms. Marvel was really good, and compared especially well to Moon Knight, at least in terms of how they represented their respective cultural influences. It's pretty rare that I'll watch a show like a Marvel show and actually learn some stuff that I didn't even know I didn't know (Pakistani history, the partition, etc). With Moon Knight it felt like anti-learning, like I felt like if I wasn't careful it would make me more ignorant.
- mcv 4y ago