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haha.... poor russians are getting conscripted for a war they did not sign up for, haha dictator putin, if only the west could have shown the light, the proper

haha.... poor russians are getting conscripted for a war they did not sign up for, haha dictator putin, if only the west could have shown the light, the proper way of doing things, oh wait, there is vietnam, most famously romanticized for the "war effort of the allies" while only feeling sorry for the millions of young lives lost on both sides but no, the war must be won at all costs, lives be damned. is.... this the same thing what russia is doing so how are they worse than USA?

extropy 4y ago
USA hopefully learned their lesson (over the several proxy wars). Now will Russia? Yes Putin is the dictator, but the problem started when the people allowed him to become one. Now his "strongman" ethos does not allow him anything but push on. Trump would probably do similar things given time. Buy US was sane enough to push him out when they still could. Also I think it's somewhat human nature to go help the side you sympathize with when an conflict occurs. We just need to learn to be more civilized about this, throwing army at the problem has very poor track record.
- the_mar 4y ago
  It's not quite the same though. US war in Vietnam or any of the -stan countries was pretty far from home and pretty easy to disassociate from. Russia invading Ukraine is like US invading Mexico, it's not as easy for people to swallow the propaganda
trasz 4y ago
We can’t punish USA, because it’s a superpower. Russia isn’t, and so far Ukraine seems pretty successful at punishing it, having already destroyed about half of Russian military and completely wrecked Russia’s political power.
MomoXenosaga 4y ago
I'm pretty sure nobody has argued Vietnam was a good idea since 1975.
GoToRO 4y ago
last time I checked, two wrongs don't make a right. What you posted is standard russian propraganda.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
  >last time I checked, two wrongs don't make a right. What you posted is standard russian propraganda. sure its all a propaganda as long as americans get to decide whats beneficial for them at the expense of lives of others, then its all fine and dandy.
  - GoToRO 4y ago
    Since Romania escaped russian influence, it is fine and dandy. Russians have no culture and nothing good to offer to the world. So it is not about what the USA decides, it's about what the allies decided and they decided not to be stupid, poor and backwards.
the_mar 4y ago
how about Iraq
sam345 4y ago
US is a democracy and the people could and did change policy in Vietnam. Dictatorships don't work that way.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
  you are assuming wrong. why was policy not put in place to NOT allow that in the first place? what about post 9/11? why did the US literally justify invading another country on "revenge"? where is democracy in that? you talk all tall claims but you have guantanamo bay and imagine if i indefinitely hold americans under torture in the name of "my national security", you will get your panties in a bunch and throw tantrums about human rights and all
warinukraine 4y ago

extropy 4y ago

USA hopefully learned their lesson (over the several proxy wars). Now will Russia? Yes Putin is the dictator, but the problem started when the people allowed him to become one. Now his "strongman" ethos does not allow him anything but push on. Trump would probably do similar things given time. Buy US was sane enough to push him out when they still could. Also I think it's somewhat human nature to go help the side you sympathize with when an conflict occurs. We just need to learn to be more civilized about this, throwing army at the problem has very poor track record.

the_mar 4y ago
It's not quite the same though. US war in Vietnam or any of the -stan countries was pretty far from home and pretty easy to disassociate from. Russia invading Ukraine is like US invading Mexico, it's not as easy for people to swallow the propaganda

trasz 4y ago

We can’t punish USA, because it’s a superpower. Russia isn’t, and so far Ukraine seems pretty successful at punishing it, having already destroyed about half of Russian military and completely wrecked Russia’s political power.

MomoXenosaga 4y ago

I'm pretty sure nobody has argued Vietnam was a good idea since 1975.

GoToRO 4y ago

last time I checked, two wrongs don't make a right. What you posted is standard russian propraganda.

2Gkashmiri 4y ago
>last time I checked, two wrongs don't make a right. What you posted is standard russian propraganda. sure its all a propaganda as long as americans get to decide whats beneficial for them at the expense of lives of others, then its all fine and dandy.
- GoToRO 4y ago
  Since Romania escaped russian influence, it is fine and dandy. Russians have no culture and nothing good to offer to the world. So it is not about what the USA decides, it's about what the allies decided and they decided not to be stupid, poor and backwards.

the_mar 4y ago

how about Iraq

sam345 4y ago

US is a democracy and the people could and did change policy in Vietnam. Dictatorships don't work that way.

2Gkashmiri 4y ago
you are assuming wrong. why was policy not put in place to NOT allow that in the first place? what about post 9/11? why did the US literally justify invading another country on "revenge"? where is democracy in that? you talk all tall claims but you have guantanamo bay and imagine if i indefinitely hold americans under torture in the name of "my national security", you will get your panties in a bunch and throw tantrums about human rights and all

warinukraine 4y ago