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“Our residents and small businesses want us focused on keeping San Francisco safe for everyone who lives and works in the City,” Breed said in a statement. “Thi

“Our residents and small businesses want us focused on keeping San Francisco safe for everyone who lives and works in the City,” Breed said in a statement. “This is a sensible policy that balances the need to give our police officers another tool to address significant public safety challenges and to hold those who break the law accountable.” Oh my god, the mental gymnastics here are mind-numbing. Why not just fix the plethora of existing fundamental crises plaguing the city which are directly to blame for rising crime? Fraud is at an all-time high too, do I get a live feed of the private offices of high-ranking financial executives? I know the playbook, I know this is Police State 101, but are we really so lazy and pathetic that we still accept this answer as citizens? When will we finally remember that police and lawmakers are our public servants and not the other way around? This should be cause for protest across the entire tech industry. We can afford to take off work. What are we going to do about this?

abeppu 4y ago
> Fraud is at an all-time high too, do I get a live feed of the private offices of high-ranking financial executives? Given the corruption revelations / charges that have come out of City Hall, SF residents should get live feeds (with audio) of all offices of city officials.
- soulofmischief 4y ago
  I wholeheartedly agree. I'm trying more and more to live stream my own dev process, they can do the same.
  - WalterBright 4y ago
    I was thinking of live streaming my own coding, but I can't think of anything more boring to watch.
    - soulofmischief 4y ago
      What kind of projects are you thinking of streaming? You might have your first viewer right here :)
    - autoexec 4y ago
      You can always add an exciting techno soundtrack or just get a mic, a mechanical keyboard, and a loud mouse and you can pull in the ASMR fans.
aeternum 4y ago
Suggest a better alternative so it takes the wind out of the 'we need this to stop crime' sails. I'd suggest SF instead create a website where citizens can upload their own private videos of crimes being committed and actually expect a police follow-up. There are thousands of SF citizens that have the exact GPS location of their stolen phone, bike, etc. You know where there's one stolen item there are likely many more, why not use the evidence we have that citizens are pleading with SFPD to take action upon (to no avail).
- rabuse 4y ago
  The first step, is to actually have consequences to the commission of crimes again. How is it so surprising that when you get lax on penalties, there will be more crime?
  - lamontcg 4y ago
    You could prevent crime from ever happening in the first place. The more mentally ill, drug addicted and homelessness you've got in a city, without any kind of support for them, the worse the crime is going to get. Punishment doesn't fix anything, just keeps them with nothing to lose.
- soulofmischief 4y ago
  Interestingly, I think a more effective approach would be to invert, reporting crimes without the expectation for police follow-up, shining a spotlight on the disgustingly lazy SFPD and their handlers. The only problem with either of these approaches is that it exposes the accused to vigilante action without due process.
- PM_me_your_math 4y ago
  Therein lies the problem. You have many thousands of pieces of evidence but limited manpower and resources. Even more so when politicians and residents are pushing to shrink your budgets. Couple that with a DA that is letting some pretty spicy characters walk on serious charges, and you have a recipe for todays conditions. If only someone saw this coming...
throwsf123 4y ago
> What are we going to do about this? Maybe elect somebody different, or run yourself if you feel so strongly about it.
autoexec 4y ago
> I know the playbook, I know this is Police State 101, but are we really so lazy and pathetic that we still accept this answer as citizens? The number of Amazon ring cameras sold suggests that we'll not only accept it, we'll pay for the privilege of bringing the police state right into our own homes!
- soulofmischief 4y ago
  Surveillance capitalism just makes you all warm and fuzzy inside doesn't it.

abeppu 4y ago

> Fraud is at an all-time high too, do I get a live feed of the private offices of high-ranking financial executives? Given the corruption revelations / charges that have come out of City Hall, SF residents should get live feeds (with audio) of all offices of city officials.

soulofmischief 4y ago
I wholeheartedly agree. I'm trying more and more to live stream my own dev process, they can do the same.
- WalterBright 4y ago
  I was thinking of live streaming my own coding, but I can't think of anything more boring to watch.
  - soulofmischief 4y ago
    What kind of projects are you thinking of streaming? You might have your first viewer right here :)
  - autoexec 4y ago
    You can always add an exciting techno soundtrack or just get a mic, a mechanical keyboard, and a loud mouse and you can pull in the ASMR fans.

aeternum 4y ago

Suggest a better alternative so it takes the wind out of the 'we need this to stop crime' sails. I'd suggest SF instead create a website where citizens can upload their own private videos of crimes being committed and actually expect a police follow-up. There are thousands of SF citizens that have the exact GPS location of their stolen phone, bike, etc. You know where there's one stolen item there are likely many more, why not use the evidence we have that citizens are pleading with SFPD to take action upon (to no avail).

rabuse 4y ago
The first step, is to actually have consequences to the commission of crimes again. How is it so surprising that when you get lax on penalties, there will be more crime?
- lamontcg 4y ago
  You could prevent crime from ever happening in the first place. The more mentally ill, drug addicted and homelessness you've got in a city, without any kind of support for them, the worse the crime is going to get. Punishment doesn't fix anything, just keeps them with nothing to lose.
soulofmischief 4y ago
Interestingly, I think a more effective approach would be to invert, reporting crimes without the expectation for police follow-up, shining a spotlight on the disgustingly lazy SFPD and their handlers. The only problem with either of these approaches is that it exposes the accused to vigilante action without due process.
PM_me_your_math 4y ago
Therein lies the problem. You have many thousands of pieces of evidence but limited manpower and resources. Even more so when politicians and residents are pushing to shrink your budgets. Couple that with a DA that is letting some pretty spicy characters walk on serious charges, and you have a recipe for todays conditions. If only someone saw this coming...

throwsf123 4y ago

> What are we going to do about this? Maybe elect somebody different, or run yourself if you feel so strongly about it.

autoexec 4y ago

> I know the playbook, I know this is Police State 101, but are we really so lazy and pathetic that we still accept this answer as citizens? The number of Amazon ring cameras sold suggests that we'll not only accept it, we'll pay for the privilege of bringing the police state right into our own homes!

soulofmischief 4y ago
Surveillance capitalism just makes you all warm and fuzzy inside doesn't it.