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This might be the lamest nitpick I've ever written, but isn't a Battle Royale an individual/small team fight to the death? This is just a small fight between tw

This might be the lamest nitpick I've ever written, but isn't a Battle Royale an individual/small team fight to the death? This is just a small fight between two teams.

mkl95 4y ago
Yeah this is a Last Team Standing.
- taskforcegemini 4y ago
  team deathmatch?
  - mkl95 4y ago
    Can you respawn?
    - lapetitejort 4y ago
      That is to be determined. I'll try to let you know if I respawn.
  - Nowado 4y ago
    Deathmatch tends to focus on frags.
Kiro 4y ago
Not lame at all. You wrote what everyone except lamers immediately thought of.
blendergeek 4y ago
I clicked the link really curious to learn why 60 knights engaged in a Battle Royale Death Match (every man for himself, fight to the death). I was disappointed to learn the click bait title had taken me in and all I would get to read about was a 30 on 30 arranged battle.
fsckboy 4y ago
people try to nail down definitions of words that are only loosely defined. You know the fight scenes in movies where a fight breaks out in a bar, and before you know it, everybody is fighting everybody? That's a battle royale. Is it a fight to the death? not usually. Have some people used that phrase to refer fights to the death? yes. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/battle_royal#English https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/battle_royal#English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_royal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_royal books.google.com search "battle royale" in the 19th century, you'll see talk of ladies squabbling and how to conduct a mass cock-fight
- blendergeek 4y ago
  A Battle Royale is when multiple combatants fight each other and they are not organized into teams. Here, the title qualifies Battle Royale with "Death Match" implying that this Battle Royale is to the death.
  - fsckboy 4y ago
    lower case, battle royale is just an expression in English that anybody is free to use to describe a conflict that had some aspect of getting out of control. > ...and they are not organized into teams. Here, the title qualifies Battle Royale... but in this incident they were organized in teams
    - blendergeek 4y ago
      > lower case, battle royale is just an expression in English that anybody is free to use to describe a conflict that had some aspect of getting out of control. Anybody is free to use any word in way they want. However, using words in common ways will help prevent confusion. For example, "battle royale" (or "battle royal") is mainly used to refer to "A fight involving three or more individuals, teams, or factions; fought until one person, team, or faction is left standing" (from Wiktionary). Using battle royale to mean something else will lead to confusion among most English speakers. > but in this incident they were organized in teams And this particular discussion about the article was about the misuse of the term Battle Royale, specifically the use of term to describe combat with two teams instead of many.
Archelaos 4y ago
Yep, and it requries computers. It is clearly a use avount la lettre. The title is to be understood as a play on words: "Battle Royale" == "Fight in the most royal manner possible". -- Whether it's a good play on words is for the reader to judge, though.
- troutwine 4y ago
  > Yep, and it requries computers. Does it? Wrasslin' has had Battle Royals as long as I've been alive and conscious and I'm sure -- although I can't find the reference now -- that English bare-knuckle boxers used to have Battle Royals in the mercantile period for non-trivial money.
  - Archelaos 4y ago
    This is not essential for my main point. I did not want to be exhaustive. I only wanted to stress the avount la lettre aspect. As long as we have no medieval source for the term, you may choose whatever more or less contemporary meaning that seems fit as the modern scopus of the word play.
    - troutwine 4y ago
      Fair enough.
jovial_cavalier 4y ago
Its recent usage is largely an allusion to the film from 2000. The title refers to a contest where members of a graduating high school class are pitted against each other to the death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_(film)
otikik 4y ago
If all the members of both teams are kings or queens, then it’s a Royal Battle.
_dain_ 4y ago
it's france, they call it that because of the metric system

This might be the lamest nitpick I've ever written, but isn't a Battle Royale an individual/small team fight to the death? This is just a small fight between two teams.

mkl95 4y ago

Yeah this is a Last Team Standing.

taskforcegemini 4y ago
team deathmatch?
- mkl95 4y ago
  Can you respawn?
  - lapetitejort 4y ago
    That is to be determined. I'll try to let you know if I respawn.
- Nowado 4y ago
  Deathmatch tends to focus on frags.

Kiro 4y ago

Not lame at all. You wrote what everyone except lamers immediately thought of.

blendergeek 4y ago

I clicked the link really curious to learn why 60 knights engaged in a Battle Royale Death Match (every man for himself, fight to the death). I was disappointed to learn the click bait title had taken me in and all I would get to read about was a 30 on 30 arranged battle.

fsckboy 4y ago

people try to nail down definitions of words that are only loosely defined. You know the fight scenes in movies where a fight breaks out in a bar, and before you know it, everybody is fighting everybody? That's a battle royale. Is it a fight to the death? not usually. Have some people used that phrase to refer fights to the death? yes. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/battle_royal#English https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/battle_royal#English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_royal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_royal books.google.com search "battle royale" in the 19th century, you'll see talk of ladies squabbling and how to conduct a mass cock-fight

blendergeek 4y ago
A Battle Royale is when multiple combatants fight each other and they are not organized into teams. Here, the title qualifies Battle Royale with "Death Match" implying that this Battle Royale is to the death.
- fsckboy 4y ago
  lower case, battle royale is just an expression in English that anybody is free to use to describe a conflict that had some aspect of getting out of control. > ...and they are not organized into teams. Here, the title qualifies Battle Royale... but in this incident they were organized in teams
  - blendergeek 4y ago
    > lower case, battle royale is just an expression in English that anybody is free to use to describe a conflict that had some aspect of getting out of control. Anybody is free to use any word in way they want. However, using words in common ways will help prevent confusion. For example, "battle royale" (or "battle royal") is mainly used to refer to "A fight involving three or more individuals, teams, or factions; fought until one person, team, or faction is left standing" (from Wiktionary). Using battle royale to mean something else will lead to confusion among most English speakers. > but in this incident they were organized in teams And this particular discussion about the article was about the misuse of the term Battle Royale, specifically the use of term to describe combat with two teams instead of many.

Archelaos 4y ago

Yep, and it requries computers. It is clearly a use avount la lettre. The title is to be understood as a play on words: "Battle Royale" == "Fight in the most royal manner possible". -- Whether it's a good play on words is for the reader to judge, though.

troutwine 4y ago
> Yep, and it requries computers. Does it? Wrasslin' has had Battle Royals as long as I've been alive and conscious and I'm sure -- although I can't find the reference now -- that English bare-knuckle boxers used to have Battle Royals in the mercantile period for non-trivial money.
- Archelaos 4y ago
  This is not essential for my main point. I did not want to be exhaustive. I only wanted to stress the avount la lettre aspect. As long as we have no medieval source for the term, you may choose whatever more or less contemporary meaning that seems fit as the modern scopus of the word play.
  - troutwine 4y ago
    Fair enough.

jovial_cavalier 4y ago

Its recent usage is largely an allusion to the film from 2000. The title refers to a contest where members of a graduating high school class are pitted against each other to the death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_(film)

otikik 4y ago

If all the members of both teams are kings or queens, then it’s a Royal Battle.

_dain_ 4y ago

it's france, they call it that because of the metric system