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EV’s are only a solution as far as renewable energy can keep up with electricity demands. And that doesn’t appear to be the case right now. Coupled with the m

EV’s are only a solution as far as renewable energy can keep up with electricity demands. And that doesn’t appear to be the case right now. Coupled with the mining of minerals, violent venting of batteries, and non-recyclable/non disposable nature of the batteries it’s not obvious that EV’s are more environmentally friendly.

trgn 4y ago
They are more quiet and don't pollute the local environment. They are a small but meaningful improvement to the quality of city life.
_ph_ 4y ago
It is very easy to keep up expanding renewable energy with the ramp up of electric cars. In Germany (which is pretty far north), about 10 solar panels are enough to cover one cars electric needs. And it is not true, that batteries are non-recyclable. Currently, they can be recycled to about 95% and of course this is cheaper than to mine the minerals for a new battery and also saves a lot of energy. It is just that it will quite a few more years before we need much recycling capacity, as the bulk of the batteries will live at least 10 to 15 years.
dymk 4y ago
EVs become carbon neutral after around 6 months of existing, taking into account emissions to manufacture them. Solar panels are between 6 months and 3 years. And batteries are highly recyclable, and only getting better. The US doubled its solar capacity in 2021, and adoption is only speeding up.
- erichocean 4y ago
  > The US doubled its solar capacity in 2021 No it didn't. > The US solar industry broke records in 2021 with 23.6 GW installed, bringing the cumulative capacity to 121.4 GW. So it increased by less than 25%, not 100%. You were only off by 4x. Source: https://www.ny-engineers.com/blog/seia-publishes-the-2021-solar-market-insight-what-you-need-to-know https://www.ny-engineers.com/blog/seia-publishes-the-2021-so...
kitkat_new 4y ago
yes, no car is better than a car - still, people won't get rid of all cars

trgn 4y ago

They are more quiet and don't pollute the local environment. They are a small but meaningful improvement to the quality of city life.

_ph_ 4y ago

It is very easy to keep up expanding renewable energy with the ramp up of electric cars. In Germany (which is pretty far north), about 10 solar panels are enough to cover one cars electric needs. And it is not true, that batteries are non-recyclable. Currently, they can be recycled to about 95% and of course this is cheaper than to mine the minerals for a new battery and also saves a lot of energy. It is just that it will quite a few more years before we need much recycling capacity, as the bulk of the batteries will live at least 10 to 15 years.

dymk 4y ago

EVs become carbon neutral after around 6 months of existing, taking into account emissions to manufacture them. Solar panels are between 6 months and 3 years. And batteries are highly recyclable, and only getting better. The US doubled its solar capacity in 2021, and adoption is only speeding up.

erichocean 4y ago
> The US doubled its solar capacity in 2021 No it didn't. > The US solar industry broke records in 2021 with 23.6 GW installed, bringing the cumulative capacity to 121.4 GW. So it increased by less than 25%, not 100%. You were only off by 4x. Source: https://www.ny-engineers.com/blog/seia-publishes-the-2021-solar-market-insight-what-you-need-to-know https://www.ny-engineers.com/blog/seia-publishes-the-2021-so...

kitkat_new 4y ago

yes, no car is better than a car - still, people won't get rid of all cars