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I would argue the HN monoculture very much has its own brand of propaganda and influencers (see: pg), you just happen to agree with it.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
This is actually a very interesting point. Does monoculture somehow prevent propaganda from propagating, because existing 'culture' is already defined to an extent,which prevents opposing views? Or does it simply mean an influencer needs to check various internal checkboxes? edit: FWIW, I regularly see people disclose their association if it seems relevant ( "shameless plug" is perfectly acceptable for example ). edit2: I thought a little more about what you wrote and I disagreed with Linkedin/Nextdoor posts before, but the last thing that kinda turned me off is a clearly political message that you could tell was written in the most divisive way possible to drive 'engagement'. And short online trek later, it turns out, the same person posted the same thing on their other social accounts. Since it is genuinely harder to tell what is a genuine conversation, I just opted to stop it altogether. HN has its issues, but at least I can typically expect someone to make me hesitate based on their arguments.
- hulitu 4y ago
  The only thing which prevents propaganda from propagating is closing the channel through this propaganda propagates. :)
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
    So all of internet:P?
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MisterTea 4y ago
I'm not sure everyone here is a fan of pg. Personally I don't really know who he is beyond some guy who made money with computers and founded YC and HN. Beyond that, if he ceased existing I'd not notice.
- dc-programmer 4y ago
  I think he talks about Lisp too or something
  - whatshisface 4y ago
    You should read his essays, they're good.
    - dc-programmer 4y ago
      I’ve read a few and there were some bangers for sure. His style seems to be to put forward these grand theories, which has its appeal, but I’m more interested in the empirical style these days

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago

This is actually a very interesting point. Does monoculture somehow prevent propaganda from propagating, because existing 'culture' is already defined to an extent,which prevents opposing views? Or does it simply mean an influencer needs to check various internal checkboxes? edit: FWIW, I regularly see people disclose their association if it seems relevant ( "shameless plug" is perfectly acceptable for example ). edit2: I thought a little more about what you wrote and I disagreed with Linkedin/Nextdoor posts before, but the last thing that kinda turned me off is a clearly political message that you could tell was written in the most divisive way possible to drive 'engagement'. And short online trek later, it turns out, the same person posted the same thing on their other social accounts. Since it is genuinely harder to tell what is a genuine conversation, I just opted to stop it altogether. HN has its issues, but at least I can typically expect someone to make me hesitate based on their arguments.

hulitu 4y ago
The only thing which prevents propaganda from propagating is closing the channel through this propaganda propagates. :)
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
  So all of internet:P?

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MisterTea 4y ago

I'm not sure everyone here is a fan of pg. Personally I don't really know who he is beyond some guy who made money with computers and founded YC and HN. Beyond that, if he ceased existing I'd not notice.

dc-programmer 4y ago
I think he talks about Lisp too or something
- whatshisface 4y ago
  You should read his essays, they're good.
  - dc-programmer 4y ago
    I’ve read a few and there were some bangers for sure. His style seems to be to put forward these grand theories, which has its appeal, but I’m more interested in the empirical style these days