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Depending on your situation, some pay might be preferable to none. However there are definitely companies out there that pay "normal" wages to interns. In teams
by lucideer 4y ago
Depending on your situation, some pay might be preferable to none. However there are definitely companies out there that pay "normal" wages to interns. In teams I've worked on interns were typically paid <€2k per month, which I would've said was very low, but the interns themselves disagreed with me as they had friends/classmates in other companies getting paid nothing.
(note: as I mentioned in another comment, it's illegal in Europe to pay interns nothing, but this law is widely flaunted and enforcement is non-existent)
One thing to consider is progression & promotions: expect to change company: if you're hired on the back of an internship will likely net you similarly low wages, which may make %-based pay-rises tricky if you stay in the same company.
- sccxy 4y agoIt is not illegal. Educate yourself about internship in EU.
- lucideer 4y agoUnpaid work is illegal in the general sense (nothing specific to internships in this). This is typically worked around by employers by classifying internships as (purely) educational, but that loophole is predicated on interns not directly contributing to a company's income-generating activities, which is obviously not the case in the majority of instances.
- sccxy 4y agoUnpaid internship is legal in EU. Just stop spreading misinformation.
- jbverschoor 4y agoFlag as false info.
- lucideer 4y agoCan you elaborate?
- jbverschoor 4y agoHere in NL you're not required to pay interns. So the notion that it's "illegal" in Europe is false. Not sure about regulations in other EU countries.
- sokoloff 4y agoWhen we convert interns, they get full SWEPR1 offers, exactly the same as any other new college grad. I'd be a little surprised if lots of companies would try to shave the salary of a known-good intern. (I'm sure some would, but that seems like a losing proposition.)
- lucideer 4y ago> I'm sure some would, but that seems like a losing proposition. Many do, and it is a losing proposition. Incredibly short-term thinking that just leads to attrition of some of the absolute most valuable hires.
- rahimnathwani 4y ago"it's illegal in Europe to pay interns nothing" There are articles as recent as February 2022, reporting on calls to make unpaid internships illegal in the EU. Has something happened since then to make that a reality? (I didn't find anything.)