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Not really. There are vast archives of newspaper articles accessible through a web interface. You just need library access. The free, open web is mostly just a

Not really. There are vast archives of newspaper articles accessible through a web interface. You just need library access. The free, open web is mostly just a spam ocean, but if you make an effort to access the services that catalog useful information, it’s still very useful. The Google web is shit, though.

b112 4y ago
Yes, old paper newspapers, which are very thin now, and vanishing. For web based newspapers, good luck trusting longevity there, just because the library has a free interface to an api...
- mountainb 4y ago
  There are scans of old newspapers going back ages, and current ones also. Stop using the web, it sucks ass. Use ProQuest and other similar databases. Web searches are wastes of time for most things. Google wants to train you to believe research is not a skill and that you can get usually get good information from the open web. Neither of those points are true.
  - b112 4y ago
    You may not read this it has been a couple of days, but thought I should reply. I am not sure why you replied to my comment l, with talk about not using the web, google, etc. After all, I specifically said that trusting web bawed properties is an issue. And you seem to have missed a key part of my comment, the state of paper based newspapers today. They're dying. Huge, multi-millon dollar, national newspaper corps, which used to have Saturday newspapers 2 or 3cm thick, when I was a kid, are now a mere 1/2 cm if lucky. Many local newspapers are gone. Just gone. The ones which remain, are barely standing on their feet. So my comment, re archival, is that old methods of scanning phycial newspapers are not viable, and getting worse yearly.
rchaud 4y ago
> You just need library access. Assuming you live in a place where public libraries are well-funded and can provide such amenities.
- krapp 4y ago
  Yes. A conversation about the utility of the internet as an archive of news material presupposes access to the internet in some form. But in the Western world at least, notwithstanding certain American locales where right-wing activists defund libraries which carry wrongthink pro LGBT, trans or anti-racist literature, access to a public library is not uncommon even in rural or poor locales.

b112 4y ago

Yes, old paper newspapers, which are very thin now, and vanishing. For web based newspapers, good luck trusting longevity there, just because the library has a free interface to an api...

mountainb 4y ago
There are scans of old newspapers going back ages, and current ones also. Stop using the web, it sucks ass. Use ProQuest and other similar databases. Web searches are wastes of time for most things. Google wants to train you to believe research is not a skill and that you can get usually get good information from the open web. Neither of those points are true.
- b112 4y ago
  You may not read this it has been a couple of days, but thought I should reply. I am not sure why you replied to my comment l, with talk about not using the web, google, etc. After all, I specifically said that trusting web bawed properties is an issue. And you seem to have missed a key part of my comment, the state of paper based newspapers today. They're dying. Huge, multi-millon dollar, national newspaper corps, which used to have Saturday newspapers 2 or 3cm thick, when I was a kid, are now a mere 1/2 cm if lucky. Many local newspapers are gone. Just gone. The ones which remain, are barely standing on their feet. So my comment, re archival, is that old methods of scanning phycial newspapers are not viable, and getting worse yearly.

rchaud 4y ago

> You just need library access. Assuming you live in a place where public libraries are well-funded and can provide such amenities.

krapp 4y ago
Yes. A conversation about the utility of the internet as an archive of news material presupposes access to the internet in some form. But in the Western world at least, notwithstanding certain American locales where right-wing activists defund libraries which carry wrongthink pro LGBT, trans or anti-racist literature, access to a public library is not uncommon even in rural or poor locales.